What You Should Know About Satanism

a reply to: DisinfoCom

If Satanism isn't about Satan?

Then humanism isn't about man.

Monotheism isn't about God.

Catechism isn't about the catholic church.

Pantheism isn't about the universe.

etc.

a reply to: randyvs

Did you read? There is a reasoning behind the name...

a reply to: Tiamat384

I didn't really have to read it. But I did anyway just to be sure.

a reply to: randyvs

Did you know there's a crowd that calls itself atheist luciferian? Fascinating stuff.

The bankers Are the Satanists!
and look what they do!

a reply to: randyvs
No one has to do anything in life. There's even welfare if you're too lazy to survive. I was just wondering, so what was your comment about? It's clear why it is called Satanism though it is not the worship of Satan.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: DisinfoCom

If Satanism isn't about Satan?

Then humanism isn't about man.

Monotheism isn't about God.

Catechism isn't about the catholic church.

Pantheism isn't about the universe.

etc.

Perhaps yes, perhaps no...but they are all about 'isms'...

Å99

a reply to: Tiamat384


Satanism doesn't have to worship Satan.
It doesn't need to perform rites and rituals or sacrifice to be satanic.
Levays version of Satanism is narcissistic self indulgence without
all the blood lust it follows the doctrine of Satan. Because it was
spawned in a more innocent time.
A full on evil church of Satan at that time 1966 might have been chased
thru the streets and lynched. A lot easier than they would today.
Don't try to tell me Satanism isn't about Satan. That's just total bullsh1t.

a reply to: randyvs

then I guess I'm full of S# because it's got nothing to do with Satan. Other adherents I know are far less selfish and self indulgent than nearly every self proclaimed Christian I know. It's an atheistic philosophy, this makes it impossible to have anything to do with Judeo-Christian hegemony. It's got nothing to do with the Christian god and many followers of the philosophy openly mock Christianity and I think that's what your real issue is. Though I could be wrong, it happens from time to time!

As an Atheistic philosophy though, all theistic religions are on the block and Christianity isn't singled out. It just happens to be the predominant faith in the US and therefore American Christians feel singled out.

Did you see my post that outlines the basic tenets of the philosophy? There is nothing evil or satanic about it and it adheres much closer to Christ's principles than what is shouted from pulpits on Sunday.

From the many hours spent trying to discern the right from wrong, it is obvious that Satanism is a dehumanizing trap.

By that I mean:

1. Satanism dehumanises people (equates them with vicious beasts)
2. Christianity promotes the human in us who has free will - this is why God does not interfere in our affairs (he just face-palms our selfishness)
3. Satanism promises a lot because Satan is the best deceiver and the lies are psychologically well crafted (make you feel "special" and godly)
4. Humans are born into a world of sin and will keep sinning because of animalistic / hormonal / biochemical / animalistic / worldly urges. Satanists keep us bound in this trap by promoting it through hedonism and selfishness. Christianity wants us to rise above this.
5. As humans we can exercise free will and rise above our animalistic selves. To be humble / helpful / loving.
6. Satanism says there is no good or evil, there are just actions. For example: Killing thousands of babies is just "an action" neither good nor bad.
7. Christanity makes this discernment clear. Good vs. Bad deeds. Good deeds have positive effects, just like bad deeds have negative effects. (ex: If you love and nurture your children they will grow confident and loving, if you ignore and scorn them they will grow up to be #holes)

Also, as others have stated here, there are WAY too many ex-satanists who claim they have been deceived and had to battle their way out of the deception. You don't see true Christians turn away from God, claiming they have been deceived.

The biggest thing about Satanism is that it is based on deception and Christianity is based on truth. This is enough for me to make the right choice.

Even leaving the religious aspect out of it: If you follow satanic principles, you'll end up in a world of hell; If you follow Christian principles, you'll end up living a life worth a lifetime.

Be not of this earth, stick to higher principles, keep you yoke light.

a reply to: FlakeMaker
Whoa there! Your example for number 6 is horrible. Children are not to be harmed (a Satanic Statement that is very dehumanizing...). People aren't better than animals. In fact humans can be cruel for the sake of being cruel unlike animals which do what they do for survival(1.). Satanism promises nothing, but what you can provide yourself(3.). Satanists don't trap you in anything and yes humans are stuck to their biologies. We will have sex and excrete and other such things. We eat more than we need and such is a Satanic principal(4.). Satanism does teach love and respect(5.) There are in fact bad deeds in Satanism. Look at the Satanic Statements, Sins and read the Satanic Bible for more comprehensive understanding of right and wrong in Satanism.

I have presented arguments to counter points 1,3,4,5,6,7. I ignored number 2 because it has nothing to do with Satanism and instead only promotes Christianity..

a reply to: DisinfoCom

Yeah, sounds great doesn't it?

But, a different group who also call themselves Satanists rape and sacrifice children.

Why the hell would I want to be associated with anyone who can't come up with a better title, than one already being used by people who genuinely do believe in comitting acts any sane person considers evil.

You, your big selfish satanic ego and the baby killers all worry me

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: SargonThrall
Somehow I dont expect a cult defender to admit that they were wrong, hmm.

You're so right about that. I NEVER see Christians admitting they are in error. It really frustrating.

Christian admit error all the time, or there wouldn't be so many denominations.

a reply to: Beavers

What baby killers? There is a reason why

I've claimed affiliation in the past towards certain mentalities and philosophies, but dropped out when the nomenclature was hijacked by persons by which I would refuse association.

As a rule, I have no problem with LaVeyans.

The whole "Satanic Revolution" we are seeing en masse, it's just another form of Pop Culture Whitewashing.

I wish them well in their pursuit of purpose and self-empowerment, but for me, it's just another word game and role playing exercise designed to incite people into communal association via the allure of shock value. The majority is harmless enough, but I'll tell you flat out there are folks who ascribe to Satanic Association in very gruesome manifestations.

I won't get into things I have witnessed, but any ideology taken to unhealthy extremes by mentally dispassionate and imbalanced persons leads to nothing more than further suffering....be it by loss of contact with reality, or else finding oneself in too deep and treading waters in the company of people....for whom blood lust is not a game, but a deathly serious affair.

So be it.
Free will and all that.
Choose your own path and walk well.

I do appreciate LaVeyan candor to the effect of "Do As Thou Wilt But Harm None Shall Be the Whole of the Law"...but there are Satanic Affiliations out there who do not give much worth or credence to LaVey's naive attempt to popularize his personal doctrines and fantasies.

For what it's worth, they should rightfully assert themselves as LaVeyans....as his scripture is that by which they associate...whereas Satan Incarnate is simply blind hatred and blood lust madness.

I'm sure there are those who would refute my words, but I neither have the time nor inclination to delve into the horrors of some branches of the Occult to which I have (unfortunately) been privy to over my tenure in this lifetime.

Play nice out there kids...and be wary of those who would abuse your naivete for their selfish ends.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

well, tell us what you have seen

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Kids playing with weapons, fire and drugs under the guise of poorly constructed rituals where things got completely out of hand. Websites designed with hypnotic flashes of light and repetitive music which further pulls an unhealthy and imbalanced psyche deeper into the depths of gore and murderous fantasies, slowly brainwashing the neophyte into a delusional state of mind to where they either partake of blood rituals upon them selves or cult sacrifices upon a weaker individual to help vent their fantasies and submission to a Dark Invocation.

Houses burned down, once again, by aforementioned youth who think they can "control" dark forces they blindly invoke thinking they can control said Powers. Kids slashing themselves and cutting themselves up because they feel "compelled" to release blood as an attempt to appease the Madness consuming their mind.

Tip of the iceburg.

Mental institutions are full of these kids, and I've heard and seen my fair share of the loss of the rational mind while playing with Occultic Forces. Some people get off on it and have no qualms with such things, and they usually end up dead or incarcerated for their crimes. Others can maintain themselves psychically and go about the normal day to day in other matters and affairs unrelated to the blood lust. Casual and calm.

For the most part, it's harmless and casual....the majority just like their music and totems and knives and symbolism, and that's fine....but there are some groups that prey on the kids who don't take it as seriously as they do...people get drugged beyond functional comprehension and subjected to all manner of cruelty...some make it out alive, but they are mentally distraught by it and never heal, others never make it out alive, some take their own lives trying to escape from the realities they have unleashed upon their psyches.

The Higher Ranking members of the Cult laugh about it.
They were just "too weak".

I've been through my fair share of this stuff myself, and came out of it alive. Still dealing with ritual cycles and all sorts of staged attacks because some of these more serious types have nothing better to do with their time than be Sadistic Abusers.

Wanna join?
It's just so much freaking fun.

Seriously.
Stick with Pop Culture Manifestations.
It's safer and less drain on your psyche.

Whatever.
Do As Thou Wilt.

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: FlakeMaker
Whoa there! Your example for number 6 is horrible. Children are not to be harmed (a Satanic Statement that is very dehumanizing...).

Oh sorry it was just an example. Replace the worb "babies" with "baby animals" or "trees" . . just trying to illustrate a point.

People aren't better than animals. In fact humans can be cruel for the sake of being cruel unlike animals which do what they do for survival(1.).

People ARE better than animals -they have free will and self reflection, which is intrinsically human.

Satanism promises nothing, but what you can provide yourself(3.). Satanists don't trap you in anything and yes humans are stuck to their biologies. We will have sex and excrete and other such things.

Satanism promises that you can provide everything yourself - yes - this is selfish and self righteous and egotistical. You are just a human, not a god or someone who can or should impose your imagines superiority over others.

We eat more than we need and such is a Satanic principal(4.).

This is exactly why the world is dying. Taking what we need and no more, respecting the balance is the way to go.

Satanism does teach love and respect(5.) There are in fact bad deeds in Satanism. Look at the Satanic Statements, Sins and read the Satanic Bible for more comprehensive understanding of right and wrong in Satanism.

Yes but it's all based on love and respect of what? the self! Worshiping the (human) beast. Also the "love" argument is easily fallible because if all you do is love, then you also love the bad/evil/conniving/rapists/murderers etc..

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

wow, ty i had no idea

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Just be safe out there....harmless fun and rebellion is a good and natural thing. That's part of what LaVey was trying to convey. He set forth his ideology in a way that wasn't contrary to overall civility. But be cautious, there are those who will see your pentagrams and baphoments and try to lure you into dark places you can't escape from as easily as media driven psychological fantasies would have you believe.

It's a sad thing to admit, but there are dangerous people out there, and even more terrifying forces that lie beneath the surface than one could ever imagine. Some doors should never be opened. Tread with caution, and if things start getting too deep, trust your instincts and get the hell away from those influences and never look back.

Stay safe.