Alien Abduction and Optogenetics

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Research on the UFO and abduction phenomenon mn has brought me to looking to answers as to how and why this happens. I have reached a point I'm confident they are real events.
A reoccurring aspect of the abduction phenomenon is missing time and lost memories. This can be seen through cases where abductees do not even know they have been abducted. They just carry on with their lives without questioning too hard on a few hours missing or strange marks on their bodies.
In many reported cases from people like Dr David Jacobs we find people either finding memories coming back to them randomly or accessed through hypnotic regression. They find that once these memories have been accessed they start to come back to them over time.
This brings me to the subject of optogenetics where memories can be stimulated using pulses of light on the hippocampus. This has been shown to be very successful on mice etc.
This idea of light stimulating memory brings me back to the ufo and abductee phenomenon where almost all abductees remember beams of light bathing them before they are taken on the ship. Are we seeing optogenetics being used in order to create a passive mind state in the abductees? Furthermore are we seeing an advance on this technology where optogenetics are being used to suppress memory and even create false memory? What better way to confuse an abductee than to create a maze of memories each contradicting the other.

Finally I would like to speculate that if there are many thousand or even millions of abductees is there a possibility that the majority of them have no recollection of these events. Could this be used in a mass disclosure event where through the techniques explained above these memories of alien interaction are activated simultaneously.
Would this lead to a widespread "awakening" as the knowledge would be easier accepted coming from within rather than a live event.

I accept that many will be quick to disregard abductee testomonies as lacking real substance. However as documented by many researchers such as John Mack and Dr David Jacobs we are seeing consistencies and clear patterns. Therefore it would be interesting to get ideas on the tech and not to debate its existence.

a reply to: InMyShell

Although there are a lot of credible abduction cases, there's three abduction cases that give a lot of credibility to the reality that abductions are real. Due to the fact, these are multiple abduction cases or the abductions were witnessed by non-abductees.

The Allagash Waterway Abduction

The Travis Walton Abduction

The Manhattan Alien Abduction

a reply to: WeRpeons

Yes those three cases stand out. However I am more impressed with the consistency in the stories from all around the world. The build up of patterns through people who have no interaction is strong evidence of something unusual. I am currently reading Dr David Jacobs and impressed with his theory on the hybridization program.

a reply to: InMyShell

I'm familiar with Dr. David Jacobs. His theory about the alien hybridization program is really concerning if aliens are actually integrating among us. Scary thought, but I know he's done a lot of research in this area.

a reply to: WeRpeons

I thought I would add that along with optogenetics we have sonogenetics. It's basically the same outcome but achieved through ultrasound. This again has proven successful with the ability to activate the brain and even muscles.

This combination of sonogenetics and optogenetics could be a possible explanation as to how alien entities control and manipulate abductees.

a reply to: InMyShell
Interesting. Hypnosis is known to produce false memories. There really isn't any evidence that hypnosis can aid in recovering memories. There really isn't any way to distinguish between false memories and real memories unless there is some way to verify that your memory really happened. Now if you are talking about memory enhancement, that's different. That's improving recall of a list of items...and generally you have something to verify that your list is correct...or someone could just spout a list of items and say they remembered it and with no way to verify that list, its remains just a list of items someone spouted out.

originally posted by: InMyShell
a reply to: WeRpeons

I thought I would add that along with optogenetics we have sonogenetics. It's basically the same outcome but achieved through ultrasound. This again has proven successful with the ability to activate the brain and even muscles.

This combination of sonogenetics and optogenetics could be a possible explanation as to how alien entities control and manipulate abductees.

Opto and sonogenetics could also be an explanation for how a world-wide shadow government is working to convince people that space aliens actually exist.
I know it hurts the feelings of the "disclosure" crowd, but the theory that a fraudulent alien presence will be used to usher in the World Government is no harder to believe than the space alien theory.
Christianity is out of fashion and hatred of God is all the rage these days so I know it is a hard topic to sell but is it not worth consideration?

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Good thought, optogenetic. Never thought of it, in relation to memory wipe.

I've had experiences external and internal which point towards non-human contact.
I "feel" when a presence is in a space with me.. but there is no body.
That subtlety of sensations or recognitions, make pin pointing the exact phenomenon feel like a Phantom case.

Did it happen? Didn't it? The abducted or those left feeling like something happened but can't verify for sure... those people go through doubt and such, and it's emotionally very hard, as well as mentally!

I throw that comment in, for people to think twice before judging.

Back on topic about optogenetic, makes sense and could be a start to very advanced forms of optogenetic technology.

I'm very skeptical of the abduction "mythology" that is commonly pushed in the field, as I agree with Karla Turner's assertion (even if I'm also skeptical of some of her other conclusions) that there is much more variety in abduction accounts than the Hopkins-Jacobs paradigm would lead one to believe, and I feel it's premature to infer any particular agenda or even form behind the entities responsible for abductions, should they actually be occurring. See: www.abovetopsecret.com... for a more detailed explanation of what I mean.

That said, as with UFOs, I am persuaded something is going on. I currently lean toward two possibilities (not an assertion, just musings.)

1) Something very real is happening, but the experience of it is far more varied, strange, and surreal than just a nuts and bolts, "greys are here and engaged in a reproductive process with us of some sort" explanation.

2) There is an as yet unquantified, unresearched, undiagnosed, and unexplored syndrome, possibly involving temporal lobe epilepsy coupled with parasomnias and psychosocial as well as cultural dynamics, driving what clearly feels to at least some "experiencers" like a profoundly real, profoundly non-hallucinogenic or illusory phenomenon.

Either of those should demand rigorous, robust, and large scale investigation by several scientific fields in my opinion, as just as with UFOs, I am not at all convinced this phenomenon can be dismissed as simply, "Everyone's crazy, fabricating, or mistaken." Crazy, maybe... but the kind of crazy hasn't been adequately identified or explained yet in my opinion, and needs to be if indeed that's the case. Generic "crazy" isn't a diagnosis or an explanation. The psychodynamics and/or biological issues need to be understood in the context of this phenomenon, not just abstractly or via assumption. We need to actually know.

That said, assuming #1 is actually true and assuming optogenetics could be expanded and refined to include complex human cognitive functions... I find this hypothesis very intriguing. It could, and this is in an extremity of hypothetical speculation mind you, conceivably go some way toward accounting for the "trance-like states," being "swithced off" (immobilization,) telepathic communication, memory suppression, shape shifting (often presumed to be either an innate ability of the entities or a screen memory - could this in actuality be intentionally induced hallucination mediated by optogenetics for the purpose of misleading or deceiving abductees?) and many other commonly reported facets of the experiences.

Very interesting idea.

Peace.

I agree with the comments that it is easy to push memories onto people under hypnosis. However that starts to unravel when you look beyond individuals and look at the consistency in thousands of independent abductees. The same experiences go across cultural divides and throughout different time periods. When we see these patterns then we begin to add more credibility to the phenomenon.

The more I delve my mind into the ideas of optogenetics and sonogenetics being used on millions of people it sees it as a disclosure mechanism.
If a disclosure event was to occur live and ET were to appear in the sky there would be panic and mayhem.
Now imagine these experiences of being on ships, interacting with the entities being suppressed until the time when they felt disclosure was necessary. By merely activating the memories of millions of people simultaneously disclosure will be achieved and what better way than giving the memories that the entities are familiar.

originally posted by: InMyShell
I agree with the comments that it is easy to push memories onto people under hypnosis. However that starts to unravel when you look beyond individuals and look at the consistency in thousands of independent abductees. The same experiences go across cultural divides and throughout different time periods. When we see these patterns then we begin to add more credibility to the phenomenon.

The general themes of the stories and dramatic theater that humans have created over history have had consistencies that span across cultures, too -- even cultures who had no knowledge of each other. I think this is a result of the fact that human brains are the same, and all human brains possess the same instinctive fears, inclinations and predispositions that have been hardwired into our brains during the hundreds of millions of years that we have evolved from amphibians, reptiles, and early mammals.

Many of these predisposed ideas hardwired into our brains is the fear of a predator taking us while we sleep. Such a predatory event may not happen to a reptile or primate during its life, but the image in the mind of the animal of it being taken away (maybe out of its sleep) as prey may be an image that evolution has allowed many higher-functioning animal possess as part of its hard-wired instinct, and that almost tangible image allowed them to keep more vigilant, and thus live longer.

...And as humans evolved from primates, that image still existed deep in our brains (along with other hardwired instincts), and maybe sometimes manifested itself in the stories that we told each other, which is why themes in human storytelling spans time and cultures.

So it may not be coincidental that if people across cultures are imagining stories (subconsciously or consciously imagining them) that there may be similarities in those abduction stories, just like there are similarities in the overall themes of many stories that are told across different cultures.

We're all human. and all have generally the same brains, and thus we all may tell stories in similar ways with similar themes.

a reply to: InMyShell

I agree with the comments that it is easy to push memories onto people under hypnosis. However that starts to unravel when you look beyond individuals and look at the consistency in thousands of independent abductees. The same experiences go across cultural divides and throughout different time periods. When we see these patterns then we begin to add more credibility to the phenomenon.

I agree. I can at least vouch for Tony Constantino who worked with the abductees of the Allagash Abductions. He was the hypnotherapist in that case. I had corresponded with Tony for many years and he was an amazing and honest man.

Fascinating slant on a tired old subject......a ray of inspiration....
Further research would be beneficial...but I think the CIA is way advanced in such techniques, and wouldn't want the word to get out......I remember the children getting seizures from a certain cartoon...seems it was the flash of the changing film slides...they sped it up or slowed it down and that fixed it ....
You have a very viable hypothesis there....KUDOS|!

I heard "They are mapping and tying us together and it is just a game to them"