New Alternative to USA using Russian Rocket Engines for Spacecraft

a reply to: Jukiodone

During my cobol days it was common to do less
than 100 lines a day due to compile-time and test run issues...my compiler does a million lines a
minute and ive got six monitor setup to spread
out my IDE i've also got another 7 monitor system
With four 4K and three 1080p displays for my testing ... Then add in the 400 AMD Firepro
Cards for stream processing (1.2 petaflops)
And we have got some SERIOUS horsepower!

I can easily do thousands of lines a day due
To the cut n paste and search n replace nature
Of the work....!!!


Here is a small snippet of my old but good
Delphi Chroma Key Code ...

See link ( set to 132 characters wide to view properly)

www.devsuperpage.com...

Full project chroma key source code:

cc.embarcadero.com...

It shows how wordy my code which indicates
That 10 million lines isn't really a whole lot of code...

a reply to: StargateSG7

WOW! I have received a screen shot of a PDF file which I am to receive
later this after/sometime this evening which I will allow ATS to have a peek at.

The Ultra Heavy Lift Vehicle (UHLV) is HUUUUUUGE !!!!!!

Here are the specs:

Total Length (i.e. total height) 410 ft (125 metres)
Outer Diameter: 55 ft (17 metres)

Primary Cargo Pod:
=================
85 feet x 55 feet
(26 metres by 17 metres)
outside length and diameter.

Interior Measurements:
24 Metres by 15 metres

Available Interior Volume for Cargo:
149,774 Cubic Feet
(4241 Cubic Metres)


Secondary Nose-Cone Cargo Pod:
=============================
65 feet x 55 feet
(20 metres by 17 metres)
outside length and diameter.

Interior Measurements:
18 Metres by 15 metres Cone-shaped

Available Interior Volume for Cargo:
80,878 Cubic Feet
(2290 Cubic Metres)


Three Motors fed from one Hydrogen and one LOX tank.

The ENTIRE structure is only four separate pieces
where each rocket section is to be shaped IN A SINGLE
PIECE using hydroforming (i.e. hydraulic shaping) out
of 8000 series (or possibly 6000 series) Aluminum alloy
with extra dopants to prevent Hydrogen Embrittlement
and Severe Cold/High Vacuum Embrittlement.

See Hydroforming:
en.wikipedia.org...

Hydrogen Embrittlement:
en.wikipedia.org...

Liquid Metal Embrittlement:
en.wikipedia.org...

Accidental Cold Welding In Vacuum Environments (i.e. Space):
en.wikipedia.org...

Ensuring Materials Can Be Used Vacuum (i.e. Space Environment)
en.wikipedia.org...

Microplasmic Process for coating Aluminum and Alloys:
www.ceramicindustry.com...

See Books:
Aerospace and Space Material Volume III
by M Peters and C. Leyens

See Books:
Titanium and Titanium Alloys
Edited by C. Leyens and M. Peters

Huntsman Advanced Materials #1:
High-Performance Materials for the
Aerospace Industry
Advanced Materials
Adhesives, Syntactics and Laminating Systems Selector Guide

Huntsman Advanced Materials #2:
Advanced Materials
Adhesives, syntactics and laminating solutions
for high performance


Oldie but Goodie booklet:
High-performance Plastics for Aviation and Aerospace.
by Ensinger



ASM Handbooks Online: Materials Properties, Perfromance and Treatment
www.asminternational.org...

Aerogel for Extreme Lightweight Insulation
en.wikipedia.org...

Nanoengineering Super Heat-Resistant, Strong Alumina Aerogels
Guoqing Zu, Jun Shen*, Liping Zou, Wenqin Wang, Ya Lian, Zhihua Zhang, and Ai Du
Shanghai Key Laboratory of Special Artificial Microstructure Materials and Technology, Pohl Institute of Solid State Physics, Tongji University, Shanghai 200092, P.R. China

( Trimethylethoxysilane-modified super heat-resistant alumina aerogels
for high-temperature thermal insulation and adsorption applications)

pubs.acs.org...


Welcome to Open Source Aerogel:
www.aerogel.org...

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The rocket motors will ALSO be created using
hydroforming techniques. The size of the
hydraulic casting forms for the main
rocket tube and cargo pods are ENORMOUS
to be poured out of REINFORCED CONCRETE
but reuseable MANY TIMES.

The rocket motors will have their hydraulic
casting forms machined out of steel.

Nozzles, Turbo pumps and tubing will be space-rated
CNC machined steel alloys with ceramic coatings
for heat and ablation resistance.

I MUST SAY THAT THE DESIGN AND MANUFACTURING
TECHNIQUES ARE OUTSTANDINGLY INGENIOUS !!!!

Even the Launch Gantry design is AMAZINGLY simple
and easy to setup. This thing can be launched from
ANYWHERE !!!!!!!!!

I understand the PDF file is almost finished and
will be sent to me later today or this evening.
I will share it with ATS as soon as I get it!

These guys are AWESOMELY GOOD at what they do!!!!!
We are talking absolutely TOP-NOTCH math, engineering
and physics talent with DECADES of experience.

A pity they won't let me join the inside team
because "I'm Too Young!" ... ha! ha! ...but....
I don't have a problem with that or with them
using my flight control system software because
my name WILL be signed on the interior capsules
and I'll be in the control room.

This is all non-profit (for now!) and done by a
bunch of semi-retirees who have a bit of money
and free time to their names.

SEE HERE FOR MORE UPDATES !!!!

Damn interesting !!!



Do you have an estimated kg/orbit price ?

originally posted by: 23432
Damn interesting !!!

Do you have an estimated kg/orbit price ?

No idea whatsoever in terms of price per launch.
Since this is a non-profit venture at the moment
and much is being on on PRIVATE volunteer basis,
the only costs will be computer gear, material costs
and personal time and the Hydrogen and LOX (Liquid Oxygen)
which I understand they will be making themselves
using large scale hydrolisis and Stirling Engine cryo-cooling.

In terms of costs their biggest one will be electricity
to power the machines and fuel-creation systems
but since this is British Columbia which has LOTS
of CHEAP power, I don't think that will be
a problem.

You should see the SCALE of what is envisioned
in term of HUGE hydroforming dies and tooling.
I must admit through they are FAST!

The Gantry Launch System is a sight to behold.
A VERY UNIQUE DESIGN! Wait until you see it!

I am still waiting for the PDF file and because
of some personal time I will have to wait until
the morning to share the PDF file.

a reply to: StargateSG7

I am truly amazed at what I received this morning.
this will make a new age in single-stage to orbit
heavy lift launch of huge payloads!

Here is the link to the 17 page PDF overview
of The Galaxy Class - Ultra Heavy Lift Vehicle
This file is COMPLETELY FREE AND OPEN SOURCE INFORMATION !!!

February 2016
Freely Distributable Open Source Information
No Copyright - No Rights Reserved.

Name of Original File:
Adobe Acrobat Reader File
6.52 MB (6,841,530 bytes)
The_Galaxy_Class_Ultra_Heavy_Lift_Vehicle.pdf

File Download Weblink:
s000.tinyupload.com...

It's an amazing document and
it is well worth the download.

WHAT A ROCKET DESIGN !!!!!

INGENIOUS AND SIMPLE TOO !!!

P.S. The link sometimes can be very hard to read on the file download website.
Look for the light green text located just below the RED BOX labelled
"Recomended Scan You File" (don't click on the red box - click on the
link just below it!)

a reply to: StargateSG7

I will try and post later reports as they
come in to my mailbox...i am not sure why they
Used the download link they did but i posted
The link to the original file location as-is.

The group is being quite secretive right now
And ONLY the PDF is being released for now.


Hope this helps...

a reply to: StargateSG7

Can you printscreen it as pics on here??
Most people wont be rushing to execute randomly linked PDF's from prolific coders such as yourself...

a reply to: Jukiodone

there's something shady about that pdf. don't click it.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Jukiodone

there's something shady about that pdf. don't click it.

I will rehost the file on our servers and
Do screenshots on ats...why doesnt ATS
allow pdf files..will do that this afternoon...

On my desktop system it does a normal
down load with no popups...but on mobiles
it Sends you to a videp download site
and then Downloads the pdf file..

Much Apologies....i didnt see that
when i posted The link...will have that
Fixed when i get to work...the pdf IS
Good cuz i virus checked it first but again
I will post jpeg image links instead.

a reply to: StargateSG7

That link leads to something that auto launched some samsung sweepstakes page and then when downloaded says file corrupted. Nobodies going to go near that PDF unless you upload it in some safe way.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

That link leads to something that auto launched some samsung sweepstakes page and then when downloaded says file corrupted. Nobodies going to go near that PDF unless you upload it in some safe way.

Will fix that...i just posted the original link...as is
Will rehost properly this afternoon....

a reply to: StargateSG7


Much apologies for the bad link above.
It was sent to me and I posted it as-is.
I am using a more well-known document hosting
site for the PDF file itself.

DO NOT USE THE ABOVE POSTED LINK,
USE THE ONE POSTED BELOW !!!!

I have posted the updated 18-page Adobe Acrobat
PDF file which was sent to me this afternoon.
It has an extra page and has some spelling errors
fixed which I pointed out to them yesterday.

There is an email link to the
"The Galaxy Class" members which
is on the last page of the document
in big bold type. I won't post it
directly here due to ATS policies.

They are being VERY secretive right now
and are NOT directly talking to the media
in person. They are instructing everyone
to send them media requests by EMAIL ONLY!

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READ AND COMMENT AWAY !!!!!

a reply to: StargateSG7

P.S. I should note that while they are using
my autonomous flight control software,
I am NOT otherwise involved in this
project. My only assistance to them
is to their graphics designer who I have
contacted to inform them of their earlier
PDF document spelling mistakes and to offer
some VERY BASIC graphics design advice
for creating web-friendly distributable PDF files.
(i.e. Make the document look like a
powerpoint presentation and
SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING!)

I hope this clarifies things.

a reply to: StargateSG7

After all that... its got some good ideas.

Describing something is completely different to doing it but hey- in the era of people funding CubeSats to find none specific energy signatures that could be UFO's- this has lots going for it.

a reply to: Jukiodone

I absolute looooove the truck transportable
cable-stayed gantry launch system. It means this can be launched from almost any where for
Equatorial, polar and other orbit configurations.

As far as i know the computer simulations
have been run rather successfully
And they are doing a quarter scale mockup
Of the engine which in itself should equal
The F1 engine in thrust when tested.

It will be a sight to behold in that test..

a reply to: StargateSG7

Just a minor update:

Combustion chamber, nozzle throat
Flow and gas expulsion flow dynamics
Out of the nozzle are being refined and
selected via a huge computational fluid
and combustion dynamics simulation
Being done on a GPU cluster supercomputer
(1.2 petaflops) where HUNDREDS of
combustion chamber, throat and nozzle
shapes and sizes are going through a
computer simulated launch cycle to obtain
Min, Max, Average, Mean, Failure limits
And Normal operating ranges.

Fuel feed Temperature, fuel injection
pulse rates, fuel vaporization spread
and concentration, impeller speeds,
Gas flow stabilization via vane angling
in throat And nozzle, and many other
hydrodynamic and plasmadynamic
variables are being set and evaluated
to arrive at the most fuel efficient and
high powered configuration and sizing
that's possible which will be able to
Lift 800,000 POUNDS of payload not
just into low earth orbit but into
HIGH GEOSYNCHRONOUS orbits.
I.e. 22,000 miles up!

It looks like "The Galaxy Class" group
Is going for the full gusto on this project!

They are STILL suggesting that a quarter scale
Engine will ready for test firing by June or July
of this year 2016!

a reply to: StargateSG7

Cool thread, StargateSG7! Thanks for sharing this with us. I like it, I like it alot!

a reply to: TheBadCabbie

It should be interesting...even a quarter scale
Model is going to be over a MILLION+ POUNDS
Of thrust! The test engine will be almost
As powerful as the Saturn-5 F1 engine....!!!

IMAGINE how powerful FOUR MILLION
Pounds of thrust is going to be!
No wonder the rocket is 55 feet
in diameter! It is gonna have to
Carry A LOT OF LOX AND H2 to
Get to 22,000 miles up...

They said they can lift 800,000 lbs
To not just Low Earth Orbit but
FULL GEOSYNCHRONOUS ORBIT!!!!

That is faaaaar better performance
than I could have ever imagined!

a reply to: StargateSG7

Then say no more my good fellow...i too have had many liquid fuelled Friday nights myself, so quite understand.

a reply to: StargateSG7

Sorry, but that presentation looks extremely unprofessional.

That combined tank doesn't make much sense. The temperature difference between LO2 and LH2 is about 70K. So you still would need insulation. The volume ratio is somewhere about 1:3, means most of this combined volume would be LH2, with a thin layer of LO2 around it, which is a very inefficient use of volume. In fact the reverse configuration is something that has been used, placing LO2 in the LH2 tank and saving on insulation.

Are you sure that actual scientists/engineers are involved, and not just some kids/amateurs having fun thinking up a hypothetical rocket?