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originally posted by: MrSpad
This happens I have seen it many times. The standard to suspend someones clearance is much lower than it is to remove them from their job. So you just create a work around. In this case branch chiefs likely do his and the deputies jobs, while they are forced to do all the branch chief non classified administrative work.
And for those that think this is something nefarious keep in mind Navel Intelligence focus is on enemy ships capabilities, fleet make ups, locations, and readiness. Nothing very exciting. Also this nothing Obama or any President would have anything to do with.
Why does he even still hold that position when he obviously isn`t qualified anymore to hold that position?
originally posted by: schuyler
originally posted by: smurfy
He accepted gifts from the marine company, who was scamming.
The investigation of Branch was considered a non-criminal act, while much of the rest were charged, some senior officers included. just it seems that he was a naughty boy. He won't be getting his clearance back though, and there is a new nominee for his job. So it seems he wasn't endicted at all
No. You are citing as fact what has been an unproven allegation, an allegation over two years old. Rear Admiral Elizabeth Train was nominated to succeed Branch in 2014 and was supposed to have taken over in 2015, BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. It's now been over a year since she was nominated.
originally posted by: stevieray
e female in place ASAP and the guy wouldn't resign / retire. So bang ! Indicted eternally until he gives in.
May want to check that retirement pay # of 12 K. An admiral is making well up over 100 K, and his retirement pay for 30 years will be well up over 50% of that. My guess is 50-75 K per year.
Our tax dollars at work...
originally posted by: Jonjonj
originally posted by: MrSpad
This happens I have seen it many times. The standard to suspend someones clearance is much lower than it is to remove them from their job. So you just create a work around. In this case branch chiefs likely do his and the deputies jobs, while they are forced to do all the branch chief non classified administrative work.
And for those that think this is something nefarious keep in mind Navel Intelligence focus is on enemy ships capabilities, fleet make ups, locations, and readiness. Nothing very exciting. Also this nothing Obama or any President would have anything to do with.
Does that work even if the person in question is the Naval Intelligence chief? How does that even work if that is the case, more to the point, SHOULD it work?
Like I said earlier. broken.
originally posted by: schuyler
As former Navy I have been following this issue since it first happened. The fact is the government is unable to prove anything against Admiral Branch. If they had been able to they would have done so long ago. So instead they hold him in limbo. Why is he still there? because he is a competent administrator with, other than this accusation (and that's all it is), a stellar reputation in the Naval community. So they refuse to engage the issue, and now everyone blames Admiral Branch.
Kind of a nice smear campaign the government has done on him. The other officers and enlisted who were engaged in this situation were disciplined years ago. So why is Branch still there? because they can't prove their case.
originally posted by: schuyler
originally posted by: stevieray
e female in place ASAP and the guy wouldn't resign / retire. So bang ! Indicted eternally until he gives in.
May want to check that retirement pay # of 12 K. An admiral is making well up over 100 K, and his retirement pay for 30 years will be well up over 50% of that. My guess is 50-75 K per year.
He's making about $15K per MONTH, $180K per YEAR. He would get 75% of base pay on retirement, so I'm right in the ballpark without resorting to a calculator. Retirement is based on BASE pay only, but he's getting significantly more in all sorts of allowances, particularly housing unless he lives on base, which is unlikely. Sorry, but I wouldn't be off by a factor of 10 on something like that. I was talking months and you were talking years.
Now, as to WHY he is still there, here's the situation. It's basically the Navy against the Justice Department. I suspect there is a bit of antagonism between them at this point. The whole thing was investigated by the Navy and "turned over" to justice and justice has been sitting on it. The ball is in the Justice Department court.
So WHY would the Navy wait on this? ESPECIALLY since last year they came to the same conclusion many people here have and went ahead with a nomination for a replacement. WHY did that not happen if it were already in the pipeline?
Because somebody stopped it. Either
1. The Navy feels their guy is being sold down the river and won't abandon him, or
2. Justice has told the Navy, "We're almost done." and has continued to sit on it.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: schuyler
As former Navy I have been following this issue since it first happened. The fact is the government is unable to prove anything against Admiral Branch. If they had been able to they would have done so long ago. So instead they hold him in limbo. Why is he still there? because he is a competent administrator with, other than this accusation (and that's all it is), a stellar reputation in the Naval community. So they refuse to engage the issue, and now everyone blames Admiral Branch.
Kind of a nice smear campaign the government has done on him. The other officers and enlisted who were engaged in this situation were disciplined years ago. So why is Branch still there? because they can't prove their case.
I think that at that level trust goes beyond what you can prove. If people have even an unproven suspicion it doesn't make sense to take chances. The real question is why he hasn't been retired by Obama revoking his commission if he can't simply be let go. Even if they're giving up a competent administrator I imagine it has to cause huge logistical issues for him to be unable to act on any classified information.