Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: MystikMushroom
And this came out today

ScienceDaily link Graphene shown to safely interact with neurons in the brain

I was really looking for a story on grapheme and DNA base pair readings which I had thought was on that site the other day. But this sounds even more ominous. "Get your proper thinking cap on!"

(wanders off looking for his heavy duty tin foil)

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Saw it and sent reply - thank you!!!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I think for most people the issue is one of boundaries. Most folks I've met are okay with the idea of UFO's or things like spirits and other phenomena, until they encounter one. As long as somethings effectively in a box "over there" it doesn't bother them, but when it breaches their own physical/mental boundary and suddenly becomes "real" they run the other way as fast as they can.

When I was younger I had one friend that stopped coming around because of random voices coming through radios. Of course, no one expects a radio to suddenly become full of static and switch to something obviously "other" so it's no wonder he didn't handle it well. Once would have been strange enough, two separate occasions was too much apparently. Of course, my attempt at explaining those kinds of events probably didn't help matters either lol.

I think most people that desire contact, as it were, probably get confirmation sooner or later. Or perhaps they have and it went unnoticed. These kinds of things aren't always so obvious.

a reply to: zazzafrazz
Well, I have lots of love for broke junkies... being (a former) one.

But it's true that most of the roads to personal power lead back to regular land and the realization that once you figure out why you sought power, you don't need it any more... well, sorta.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I've often wondered:

once one separates out all delusion, what would one be left with?

I picture a roadside attraction in New Mexico, but could be wrong...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Uh-huh... dribbling out the "secret" info to the mouth breathers again... oh-goody, now we can link to graphene! Yay... eternal virtualworld, here I come... (wonders if this is just a repeat in time that's already occurred and we're all already plugged in a Matrix of sorts- a la scientific and Gnostic and sci-fi thought)

a reply to: Baddogma
Full circle? Or would that be "full hexagon"??

The stuff is so strange to think of. I mean, one atom layer thick and you can pick it up with your hands! Sometimes that fact just makes me go, "huh?"

Seeing a post on inserting ions to DNA, then look at, "Gee, we can put grapheme on the brain with no issues" and then two cross and bam! Tinfoil hat. Why does the scene from A Clockwork Orange come to mind? Where does it end? Or even better, when did it start?

a reply to: paradoxious

And there's "Maddog's Meat Face..." I think...

a reply to: lostgirl
Anywhere near Laurel Canyon? A deeep well of HIIIIIGHHHH STRANGENESS peopled by lovely fruit loops...

I have a story about almost getting Tim Leary's son Zach in a car wreck ... but that's for a "my brush with counter culture icons" thread.

a reply to: MystikMushroom
Okay, that post wins the "obscure terminology most mortals will have to google" award!

I guess once I settle in to study the ever increasing pile of "stuff one must know" I'll click on the linkies and my head will inflate two sizes larger than the sucker already is... I have another close amigo zoning in on this stuff from a crank quantum physics aspect and he's emailing me breathless realizations about the very stuff were broaching here... the world's are obviously converging and the magic is coming back, it seems...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
Indeed.. .the Ouroborus of time...

but I'd rather not eat my own "tail" thanks... too much hair there...

a reply to: Baddogma

A lot of things overlap and can be combined in a multitude of ways. If you were to use some of that information, the graphene stuff also mentioned along with DREADDS (designer receptors exclusively activated by designer drugs) -- you'd really be able to mess with things.

All the pieces are out there...they're just all compartmentalized underneath "specialists" who have very narrow scoped views of research. I'm certain, however, there are people who are combining these various forms of research in exciting ways ... under very, very secretive conditions.

Many of the abilities people would gain from these sciences would appear "magic" to people. Magic is really a relative term in my world -- it just is a place holder to describe that which can't currently be called/explained in another way.

You'd be surprised at how ancient people stumbled upon "technology" and didn't realize it -- it was relegated to the mages/shamans. Healing plants in specific combinations to allow for certain chemical interactions ... amazing chemistry being performed by primitive people without the use of microscopes or labs. It seemed like "magic" to those people, but today it is just pharmacology.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: MystikMushroomI have another close amigo zoning in on this stuff from a crank quantum physics aspect and he's emailing me breathless realizations about the very stuff were broaching here... the world's are obviously converging and the magic is coming back, it seems...

LMFAO! I think that wins the internet, at least for today.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Oh and KPB, we should have a creative writing exercise where we take turns expounding upon:

"I saw one of those (LAM) critters in 1981 in the belly of an insane theosiphist..."

heh... man, if some of the stuff I've experienced over the years was taken out of context... heck, or in context, I'd be carted off to the rubber hotel California.

eta: and just to be crystal clear, I totally believe not only that you saw that, but that it was there in some reality as well ... just to be completely non flippant and UNsarcastic as some of my light-hearted posts to you are misinterpreted by others, though I would think you "get it" ...even if we're both likely floating somewhere in the autistic spectrum.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Yes... why I dislike specialization, while admitting it's usefulness.

I see it from a pinko economic standpoint, though, and believe specialization and terms used by "experts" are simply to keep their place as useful middlemen and that info choke-point lessens humanity as a whole (not you, Mystik, just the terms).

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

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(wonders if this is just a repeat in time that's already occurred and we're all already plugged in a Matrix of sorts- a la scientific and Gnostic and sci-fi thought)

A time long past. Some say a time yet to come! You sir have broached it so let me if I can complete...

We are the aliens in a computer simulation of what these cleaver monkeys did at the dawn of their first step to the stars?

I like it! Makes sense in a strange kind of way. Maybe alien abductions are you just waking up in your "real" body? Makes as much sense as anything else!

a reply to: Baddogma

No...Central Florida, but I've been lots of places with 'mystical' reputations -

Sedona, AZ - Superstition Mnt. AZ - couple places in London - Edinburgh, Scotland - various other European 'spots' cathedrals, etc. - St. Augustine, FL - Estes Park, CO (toured the 'haunted' hotel that 'inspired' "The Shining") - Devil's Tower in Wyoming - various other National Park 'spots' with 'reputations' -

- even stayed over night in a reputed 'very haunted' hotel in San Francisco (room 13, yet!)...and still, nothing!

Not that I really mind all that much, like I said somewhere - a 'mystical' experience would be great, but I have no desire to see anything that would freak me out!


It occurs to me though, that it could be interesting if someone were able to work out an experiment to see if my presence would act as a sort of 'repelling force' for high strangeness..

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: lostgirl
Anywhere near Laurel Canyon? A deeep well of HIIIIIGHHHH STRANGENESS peopled by lovely fruit loops...

I have a story about almost getting Tim Leary's son Zach in a car wreck ... but that's for a "my brush with counter culture icons" thread.

In another canyon located approx 1 mile to the east of Laurel Canyon. South side of the Hills. Doesn't continue on past mulholand.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
As you say... makes as much sense as anything else!

I had an epiphany along that thought chain while under several chems and almost brought it back to this reality, and it wasn't some futuristic Disneyland where we're all hooked into a ride where we experience evolution from a real-time, first hand perpective... exactly. It was a bit more involved than that, but close.

But it was a possible delusion brought on by gas, concoctions and a couple compounds .. .soooo...?

a reply to: BASSPLYR
Oh... heh... whelp, that area is chock full of transient luminous phenomena, ghosts and witchcraft... but thanks for the (possibly too specific) clarification!