Bush's New Plan- Get Rid of Welfare

It looks like no one has posted this yet. Bush is struggling to keep his campaign from complete annihalation. Here is his new plan to get the Republican base enthusiastic about him- get rid of welfare. Bush wants to end all programs for the poor and turn them all over to the states. This is a terrible idea as conservative states will be only too happy to quit paying into these programs altogether, even though many people will be bankrupted or even die as a result. It would probably cause a massive exodus to states like mine that do will continue to fund these programs which will be a disaster as well. Luckily Bush has almost no chance of being elected.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

CB328

Watch that his latest plan is going to get him a zero rating in the next couple weeks and completely off the stage.

The guy is obviously a complete idiot who has no passion for helping every American citizen. He doesn't understand the implications of following through with such an act but a hope and a prayer.

Bush said decades of federal policy have not solved the vexing problem of how to help generations of Americans mired in poverty.

"We have spent trillions of dollars on the ‘war on poverty,’ but there are now still more than 46 million Americans living in poverty," he said in a statement laying out his plan.

Sounds like he describes the Democratic long term plan perfectly !!

a reply to: CB328

Luckily Bush has almost no chance of being elected. 

I hope he gets the memo soon.
Time for him to drop out and quit making an ass out himself.

I gave you a star and flag.

originally posted by: CB328
It looks like no one has posted this yet. Bush is struggling to keep his campaign from complete annihalation. Here is his new plan to get the Republican base enthusiastic about him- get rid of welfare. Bush wants to end all programs for the poor and turn them all over to the states. This is a terrible idea as conservative states will be only too happy to quit paying into these programs altogether, even though many people will be bankrupted or even die as a result. It would probably cause a massive exodus to states like mine that do will continue to fund these programs which will be a disaster as well. Luckily Bush has almost no chance of being elected.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

I am no fan of bush but if you read the article he would be redirecting the federal beurocracy to the states and allow them to create programs that work for their states.

Welfare is one of the biggest scams there is. It's not designed to help people out, its designed to keep people in. Just try going to college or taking a job...benefits dropped.

We need police in high crime areas, schools not connected to property taxes, job training, etc.

I am all for the guaranteed income approach. It's a good compromise.

a reply to: CB328

Frankly, Bush was my biggest worry. He has the best fiscal and administrative record of all of the candidates so he was a shoe in for a wonk driven by-the-numbers left/right contest.

But, I think I can breath a sigh of relief, he seems to be out.

originally posted by: CB328
It looks like no one has posted this yet. Bush is struggling to keep his campaign from complete annihalation. Here is his new plan to get the Republican base enthusiastic about him- get rid of welfare. Bush wants to end all programs for the poor and turn them all over to the states. This is a terrible idea as conservative states will be only too happy to quit paying into these programs altogether, even though many people will be bankrupted or even die as a result. It would probably cause a massive exodus to states like mine that do will continue to fund these programs which will be a disaster as well. Luckily Bush has almost no chance of being elected.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Bush could offer everyone a new house, car and free vacations and still he won't get over 3%. It looks like a billion dollars worth of Trumps F**k you money rolled right over him.

originally posted by: CB328
Bush wants to end all programs for the poor and turn them all over to the states.

I'm not a Bush fan at all, but the question is do you like a big Federal government foot print and a small State government foot print or the other way around? Since we are a Republic I see the Federal government way too big and much of it should be at the State level.

This is a terrible idea as conservative states will be only too happy to quit paying into these programs altogether, even though many people will be bankrupted or even die as a result.

Really? Is this what you think? Conservatives want to kill off the poor? Lol I think conservatives want to give poor people jobs, but that is just crazy talk on the left...

a reply to: CB328

Actually I think ita terrific idea.

Best Idea the worthless Bush family has ever come out with.

Local government will know the needs of its people better than any Federal government ever will.

The feds just need to make sure that a certain minimal standard is maintained. If people start starving and homelessness shots up then they step in, otherwise? Let the local government handle it.

I got a feeling that any state that did entirely cut the welfare many of the the businesses in that state would probably move to the more liberal states to avoid paying a living wage to the people. I think it would kind of put the conservatives in a bad spot. Either hold to you words and cut the programs, which really isn't good for the businesses in those states, or well, admit you've been lying to us this whole time.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CB328
Bush wants to end all programs for the poor and turn them all over to the states.

I'm not a Bush fan at all, but the question is do you like a big Federal government foot print and a small State government foot print or the other way around? Since we are a Republic I see the Federal government way too big and much of it should be at the State level.

This is a terrible idea as conservative states will be only too happy to quit paying into these programs altogether, even though many people will be bankrupted or even die as a result.

Really? Is this what you think? Conservatives want to kill off the poor? Lol I think conservatives want to give poor people jobs, but that is just crazy talk on the left...

Where I live in SC. Plenty of conservatives have created things like after school programs for kids with no where to go. I have worked with some legislators myself getting instruments into a highschool for band. Also helped me make an antibullying program/self defense tacticts as part of my Judo program.

I have a lot of liberal in me though it's more the classical type.

Left and right need to stop their fight and work for the people again. Most are sick of all the attacks in their beliefs. The back and forth between the followers is even worse than the politicians sometimes.

a reply to: luthier

So you take care of the kids. How do you take care of the adults?

originally posted by: Aazadan

So you take care of the kids. How do you take care of the adults?

Provide them jobs? The young, old, mentally/physically handicapped have excuses not to work, how about everyone else not in these categories? I don't see large liberal cities/areas such as Chicago doing so well with what they have in place.

originally posted by: luthier

Where I live in SC. Plenty of conservatives have created things like after school programs for kids with no where to go. I have worked with some legislators myself getting instruments into a highschool for band. Also helped me make an antibullying program/self defense tacticts as part of my Judo program.

When those in need are taken care of at the state/local level they maintain their individual worth and identity. At the federal level people become nothing but numbers and statistics. Who cares if 100 million are hurting to put food on the table everyday of the week the unemployment fuzzy math is less than 6%, and that is all the Feds care about.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: luthier

So you take care of the kids. How do you take care of the adults?

Not sure I get the question. But by taking care of their kids a pretty big burden is taken off the parent.

I teach self defense for adults as well. Also read the post I made about policing bad areas, job training and a guaranteed minimum income. Like welfare except everyone gets itand there aren't strings to keep you down. It actually would cost less to just give adults a set amount of income then the massive beurocracy it takes to give the same people money. It also puts the responsibility back onto the person. Everyone knows they have some income and if they are having trouble with money its probably other factors.

The problem I have with wellfare is it is set up to keep you from getting economic advancement. You try to go to school or get a job and you become unelligable. So a mom of three makes better money on welfare than working. Rediculous.

Moat people are more concerned with punishing people for being poor or making bad decisions than fixing the problems. It's better to hold them accountable if they have been given a chance to start with.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: luthier

Where I live in SC. Plenty of conservatives have created things like after school programs for kids with no where to go. I have worked with some legislators myself getting instruments into a highschool for band. Also helped me make an antibullying program/self defense tacticts as part of my Judo program.

When those in need are taken care of at the state/local level they maintain their individual worth and identity. At the federal level people become nothing but numbers and statistics. Who cares if 100 million are hurting to put food on the table everyday of the week the unemployment fuzzy math is less than 6%, and that is all the Feds care about.

I agree. And am prob even considered liberal by many.

The local governments know local problems. I am even okay with socialism if its a very local level and non federal. Anything bigger just turns into a mess or worse.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Provide them jobs? The young, old, mentally/physically handicapped have excuses not to work, how about everyone else not in these categories? I don't see large liberal cities/areas such as Chicago doing so well with what they have in place.

There's no jobs to do. Most jobs are unskilled labor that pay a life of poverty, and there's not even enough of those to go around. People aren't working because productivity has reached a point where we simply don't need everyone to work.

a reply to: luthier

A basic income is good, but paying for it is another matter. I think that we're ultimately going to have to move to that model but it requires some significant tax increases and a willingness to elect competent people to collect/distribute that money. Right now we can't even do things like get tax increases to keep our bridges from imminent collapse so I don't think the political will exists for this.

originally posted by: luthier
The local governments know local problems. I am even okay with socialism if its a very local level and non federal. Anything bigger just turns into a mess or worse.

If a state voted in socialism then GREAT! They voted what they wanted, that is how it should work, and I can chose to live there or not.

a reply to: Aazadan

Mandatory birth control.

We have a nation of welfare addicts that breed like cockroaches on someone else's dime.

Stop the idiocracy.