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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain
I don't get it. Liberals are BELIEVERS, not Rationalists or Pragmatists...almost completely the contrary.
I don't even think you guys are POLITICAL in nature anymore. You're a Personality Cult. There's almost no way around that now. It's very hard to listen to the "Left" because the arguments are circular, avoid known DATA, and are based almost completely on "feelings" and emotion.
Each post of yours in this thread is nothing but emotion and opinion - no facts or rational explanations
Lots of caps
And this:
But REALITY doesn't care about your 'solutions to make it all better"
What does that even mean? Does it sound rational to you?
Exactly why I haven't responded to him/her. How can you reason with that?
Your posts stand? That sounds declarative.
Exactly why I haven't responded to him/her. How can you reason with that?
EDIT to clarify: To clarify, I was referring to "reasoning with" the post you quoted, not to your post.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: enlightenedservant
A few weeks ago I actually rewarded this kind of thinking
Desperate times...
:-)
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain
I made a mistake a couple of weeks ago
:-)
It happens. My search for the thinking conservative continues...
Oh, wait - I forgot - you're a libertarian! So rational - that lot
One of the best things about life is having the opportunity to learn from our mistakes. It makes us better people in the long run.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Exactly why I haven't responded to him/her. How can you reason with that?
EDIT to clarify: To clarify, I was referring to "reasoning with" the post you quoted, not to your post.
With grammar, logic and rhetoric like everyone else. Or you could speak about them indirectly while still within earshot like they do on playgrounds.
It makes you worse, because you refuse to accept the arguments of other views, leaving you in your little echo chamber.
No, it's because, as evidenced by your fallacy laden commentary, you're out of your league with me in the context of political discourse.
There is a fear that I would completely OWN you on this thread if you actually were SPECIFIC about your stance..."Liberalism/Progressivism"....being in fact LIBERAL or PROGRESSIVE.
You know you're beat. So your 'out' is "I choose not to talk to him".
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Which part of history class did you miss?
Thomas Jefferson himself said the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with blood or something like it. There is also something about this is our own Declaration of Independence.
"When in the course of human events ..." It proceeds from there to talk about throwing off unjust governance.
The problem is that your conception of "just" is exactly what others find unjust because in order to ensure what you call "fair" which is really equal outcome, the law cannot treat us all equally. It has to advantage some at the expense of others meaning there is actually no equality at all.
And for those of us who believe the laws ought to treat all the same, that is unjust. So it then becomes our duty to fight it.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
America was founded with the following philosophy in mind – The amplification of Ethics, personal growth, tolerance, education, diversity, philanthropy, family, community.
Labels aside, political leanings aside, those values embody what it is to be a productive member of American society and I'm sure you would agree that any individual which practices them would be considered a true Patriot and someone who truly and genuinely loves their country and fellow man.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: enlightenedservant
One of the best things about life is having the opportunity to learn from our mistakes. It makes us better people in the long run.
It makes you worse, because you refuse to accept the arguments of other views, leaving you in your little echo chamber.