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My point was that since farming our brain has been shrinking period.
) And of course, you can't claim to be respectful of another creature and then slaughter it. Since it was unnecessary, that makes it a choice - you CHOOSE to steal another sentient creature's life. You may think they are inferior, but does that make them less worthy of life?
starve and have not enough water.
we were primates for tens of millions of years,
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
What I'm saying is that since we relied less on hunter gathering and developed farming water irrigation and animal husbandry and the technology that went with it, we concurrently learned systems of accounting record keeping transportation storage of surplus produce. Trading surplus with adjoining communities encouraged trading in art, exchange of scientific data. The 10% loss of brain mass is nothing. As you saw from the quote intelligence is made up from far more than gms/ozs.
originally posted by: andy06shake
Just sat down to Turkey, Beef and Ham. And not forgetting the Pigs in Blankets.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
I stopped pork many years ago,I have a little bacon now and again. I think there may be some wisdom as to why Muslims and Jews dont eat pork.
originally posted by: Son of Will
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
You can categorize life on earth with dentistry. There are creatures with sharp teeth. There are creatures with flat teeth. There are creatures with no teeth. There are creatures with both sharp and flat teeth. There is also a hierarchy referred to as the food chain.
Creatures with no teeth absorb nutrients. These creatures are food for the higher levels of no teeth creatures. Think worms and birds. Natural.
There are creatures with flat teeth. Flat teeth eat grass and leaves. Flat teeth creatures aren't particularly smart creatures. You don't have to be smart to hunt grass.
There are creatures with sharp teeth. Sharp teeth creatures eat flat teeth creatures. Sharp teeth creatures are generally smarter than flat teeth creatures because they must hunt the flat teeth creatures.
There are creatures with both sharp and flat teeth, omnivores. Omnivores eat both the sharp teeth and the flat teeth creatures as well as the plants and no teeth creatures they feed on. Omnivores are the smartest of all and reside at the top of the food chain.
Nature and evolution do not equip us with features we do not need, nor does it allow us to maintain them. We have sharp teeth. We are intended to eat the flat teeth creatures. It is natures way.
ps - because bacon
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And that is all beside the point of the OP. Because you can easily thrive on an exclusively plant-based diet, this is about choice. Ethics.
Animals can suffer. Unnecessary aggression is unethical. Enslaving/slaughtering another sentient creature is unnecessary aggression. Therefore unethical. (Or just re-read the OP, it's properly elaborated there)
Your turn.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
And that is all beside the point of the OP. Because you can easily thrive on an exclusively plant-based diet, this is about choice. Ethics.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
And that is all beside the point of the OP. Because you can easily thrive on an exclusively plant-based diet, this is about choice. Ethics.
I'm not sure thrive is the right word, I would say more a long the lines of survive. Even today a plant-based diet takes a good amount of work, and to be honest most people I know that are on a strict no meat diet are not the healthiest looking people around and many I find to be somewhat bitter people. The ones that do it well are the ones that still eat fish, shrimp etc but man that that type of diet gets kind of old for me.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
The ones who seem happiest to me lately, and I did find this a bit of a surprise, are the back to basics paleo diet people. Skip all the gmo's, heavily processed meats, sugar substitutes, and just eat real food. Makes sense to me...