Turkey shot down Russian Jet: reportedly by two F16's

a reply to: crazyewok

would you call that "not an aircraft carrier" especially when they have deployed it?

originally posted by: Nikola014
I hope this situation escalates.

It's about time the world deals with the countries that support terrorists.

I agree. It's about time Russia is treated as a hostile country.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: crazyewok

would you call that "not an aircraft carrier" especially when they have deployed it?

There is a huge diffrence between deployed and combat ready.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Vector99
China is not going to get involved, and @AsenY2K, yes they do have an aircraft carrier.
.

A very old and out dated one which they are still training and developing doctrine for.

If anything its only a training ships while they build the ones currently under construction.

That aircraft carrier of China is a floating casino. Really. A casino where people actually gamble. China is a regional power and no way can get involved in far off situations. We can safely keep them out of the equation here.

a reply to: asen_y2k

The laoling is not a casino. That was the lie China used to buy the carrier. It was commissioned in 2012.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: asen_y2k

The laoling is not a casino. That was the lie China used to buy the carrier. It was commissioned in 2012.

Oh well even Thailand has one aircraft carrier. Look this BRICS people talk about are still regional players except for the ex super power, i.e Russia. They will all stay that way for some time into the future.

a reply to: crazyewok

I really have a hard time believing the Chinese would send out their ONLY aircraft carrier, FULL of aircrafts, to be a floating decoy.

If you have any links that show the Chinese carrier would be un-operational on such a tour that would be nice.

Let's not discredit the Chinese please. They have no true ally and they make everything in the world.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: grantbeed
The West want Assad brought down so , so badly and Russia will not let that happen. Both sides know this and everything else is just a by product of a messy situation. This game of Bluff is going to spiral out of control very quickly if the West continue to expect to jump in to any Country they wish and change their regimes.
I'm really sick of Western Countries and Puppet nations on MSM trying to justify their War on Syria. It's not a war on ISIS at all its just a war on SYRIA!

Russia would never do that of course, oh dear me no, just ask the people of Chechnya, Georgia or Ukraine to name but 3.

The "rebels" in Chechnya were the same Wahhabi extremists that are in Syria. In fact, some of them literally moved to Syria & are fighting there right now.

And are you sure you want to defend the fighters in Georgia who fought Russia?

One of ISIS' top commanders was a 'star pupil' of US-special forces training in the country of Georgia

Aside from ISIS' 'caliph' Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Georgian ex-commando Omar al-Shishani might be the most recognizable and popular of the powerful militant group's leaders.

And from the same article:

“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”

“We trained him well, and we had lots of help from America,” another anonymous Georgian defense official told McClatchy about Shishani. “In fact, the only reason he didn’t go to Iraq to fight alongside America was that we needed his skills here in Georgia.”

Noticing a pattern yet? And that doesn't mention the Right Sector goons in Ukraine.

All those hopeing for a NATO/Russia war are playing into the hands of ISIS.

Thats exactly what those vermin want, for us to fight each other.

Right now some Jihadi is likely fapping off to this thread....

DP

originally posted by: crazyewok
All those hopeing for a NATO/Russia war are playing into the hands of ISIS.

Thats exactly what those vermin want, for us to fight each other.

Right now some Jihadi is likely fapping off to this thread....

I'v said this before and i'l say it again, you give ISIS too much credit.
To think they are working a geo-politic angle is absurd.

we aren't fighting a nation, we are fighting splinter groups fighting under the same banner.
Even Al-Q had a better endgame then ISIS. They had a playbook.

ISIS stops at killing none-muslims and they even fail at that.

I sort of feel like if NATO went to war with Russia all the terrorist groups would silently fade into the background. The US would have its MID-fueling bogeyman back, after all, and would no longer need to keep creating them.

originally posted by: Belgianbloke

originally posted by: crazyewok
All those hopeing for a NATO/Russia war are playing into the hands of ISIS.

Thats exactly what those vermin want, for us to fight each other.

Right now some Jihadi is likely fapping off to this thread....

I'v said this before and i'l say it again, you give ISIS too much credit.
To think they are working a geo-politic angle is absurd.

we aren't fighting a nation, we are fighting splinter groups fighting under the same banner.
Even Al-Q had a better endgame then ISIS. They had a playbook.

ISIS stops at killing none-muslims and they even fail at that.

didnt say they were behind it. Only they would love for there enemies to fight each other.

a reply to: crazyewok

Aye, won't argue with that.

According to Turkish news Turkey has increased F16 border patrols to 18 from 14. Heres the link:

Turkish News

I would say this is the opposite of what we are hearing elsewhere. Looks like they are not backing down but standung upto Russia.

Russian news and Turkish news saying opposite stuff.

originally posted by: asen_y2k
Oh well even Thailand has one aircraft carrier. Look this BRICS people talk about are still regional players except for the ex super power, i.e Russia. They will all stay that way for some time into the future.

China has no interest for expansion, so they will stay a local power for a long period to come. And the same thing can be said about Russia ... however, US and NATO are a wildcard here. Their track record, show them either as "idiots" or as "evil", depending on weather their "failures" are actually successes or stupidity. This may change the entire game.

From various sources I hear of massive bombardment of the Turken border areas. Cruise missiles, heavy bombers ground assets. All attacking right upto the Turkish border.

Moreover we have Turkish forces on high alert due to this.

a reply to: asen_y2k

originally posted by: asen_y2k

Russian news and Turkish news saying opposite stuff.

Both heavily propaganda driven.

Anymore though, so is just about every news source.

At least 12 air strikes hit Syria’s Latakia provence as pro-government forces clashed with fighters from al Qaeda’s Nusra Front and Turkmen insurgents, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said. A Turkmen commander said missiles fired from Russian warships in the Mediterranean were also hitting the area, as well as heavy artillery shelling. (news agencies)

A Turkish military source said Turkish troops on the border were on alert after the bombardment began, - AP