Satanic Temple chapters offer Muslim communities help against ‘right wing xenophobia’

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: ~Lucidity

So atheist feel that there are not enough satan worshipers in the world?

Errrr...it appears you might be giving far too much credence to a name? Maybe think about them as sort of a devil's advocate? Or the other half of a conscience? Reminding people that they should consider both sides of an issue before leaning too hard one way.

in the name of satan will not take that good message very far...

If you let a name stop you from seeing what is arguably a good message maybe you don't have the capacity to see the message....are blinded by other things.

a reply to: Grimpachi

So we first have to change everyone's perception before we can find balance?

It would be easier to just be yourself and strive for the balance highlighted in the post.

imo it creates a weak foundation if we use lies to find balance.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

true but there is no sense in putting up road blocks on the road to balance.

the herd is easily distracted by words

works without faith are meaningless

the righteous shall find just cause but evil will create it

a reply to: deadeyedick

So we first have to change everyone's perception before we can find balance?

You misunderstood I never commented on finding ballance.

My comment was in reference to your claim that a message wouldn't go far because of the name of satan.

Again, perceptions change. I think it will happen sooner than later the way things are going.


Perception is likely to start matching to groups actions and if those groups are affiliated with satan then there may be a day when that name carries far more weight than others.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Raggedyman

You do know that the Satanists being referred to in the OP are atheists as well right?

So satanism the religion of some atheists
Of course I guess they don't really believe in satan, just do things in his name

Oxymorons aren't they


I am never surprised when I hear how religious some atheists are, am a bit surprised when atheists stand under the name of a demigod
Satanists message, do what you want
Atheism has her old leader

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: TzarChasm

ok so you are saying that it is ok for atheist to lie and pretend to be Satanist while trying to put down Christians with a fake tale of muslims being threatened to the point of fear to go to the store but it is not ok for me to call them godless heathens.



perhaps the atheist are just tired of being heathens and are trying to lose that status by evoking the name of satan

...they aren't real satanists? They put man above god. They answer to no divine authority. They promote science over faith. That sounds pretty anti-god or "satanist" to me. I mean, that's what everyone says "it's satan trying to deceive us" well, here is the proof I guess. It just kills you that they look good doing it. But seriously, this isn't a competition, really. You can be just as upstanding by setting the same example in your own community. No need to be "better than" , just be as good as you can. Even of it means sharing a table with a Muslim and a black man. We all bleed the same color dude.

a reply to: TzarChasm
Putting man over God is satanism in its truest form, was satan placed himself over God
They may not be answering to a divine form, but they are acting in sat and name, that's religion

Look at the many people who are called Christian but don't act like Christians, like the op suggests

Let me see, no true Scotsman argument lying around here somewhere I am sure

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm
Putting man over God is satanism in its truest form, was satan placed himself over God
They may not be answering to a divine form, but they are acting in sat and name, that's religion

Look at the many people who are called Christian but don't act like Christians, like the op suggests

Let me see, no true Scotsman argument lying around here somewhere I am sure

Yes, and clearly, it's doing so much harm. Shame on them for being model citizens, that leaves us one Emmanuel Goldstein short of a George Orwell novel, and gods pet serpent is supposed to start world war 3 any day now. How on earth is god going to literally invade and conquer earth with all those nasty independent free thinkers roaming around exercising their pithy human rights? ...wait, we were worried about the satanists weren't we? Got off track there.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

One night I had a dream...

I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord, and Across the sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand; One belonged to me, and the other to the Lord. When the last scene of my life flashed before us, I looked back at the footprints in the sand. I noticed that many times along the path of my life, There was only one set of footprints.

I also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times in my life This really bothered me, and I questioned the Lord about it. "Lord, you said that once I decided to follow you, You would walk with me all the way; But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, There is only one set of footprints. I don't understand why in times when I needed you the most, you should leave me.

The Lord replied, "My precious, precious child. I aint the Lord, I am Satan, are you trying to tell me you never noticed the footprints were cloven?"

Well...

a reply to: Jonjonj

I might have to steal that.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Be aware that theft is both morally and spiritually wrong, and then have at it. I stole it too.

a reply to: Jonjonj

Haha ducklings.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

If only all our little ducklings were quite so cute, right?

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

/Plié

Your post made direct connections between hypocrisy,rampant bigotry directed at Muslims, "conspiracy theories" about Christian Theocracy in the US, and "other" ATS members that you blankly accused of making all these connections (with no backup naturally). I pointed out, delicately at first, that the constant carping trying to equate any criticism of Christianity or Christians to the calls for Muslim genocide that we've seen in the past week or so is blatantly hypocritical. Stand behind what you say or not, it makes no difference to me.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Your posted response to any issue being discussed is denial, when you aren't limply trying to insult those who bother to respond to barely legible posts. Your religious beliefs are your own; but for many of us, these fables you hold so dearly are not real, and as your posts constantly argue as if the only truth is your chosen mythology, you leave absolutely no room for anything resembling rational discussion, and I'm tired of trying.

Because of the high praise of the satanic group for their escort service and the disdain over Christians "not doing anything" I'm just wondering what are the fabulous atheists groups doing to support the Refugees?

It must be something amazing, given as you are so quick to criticize your perceived prefabricated notions that Christians aren't doing enough to suit you. Surely you aren't that hypocritical? Go ahead! Reveal your good deeds! We want to know what you've got planned for them when they get here! What you've got up your sleeves! My church is already stocking our clothes closet and pantry,well, actually Jan. 1 is our target date to have it bursting at the seams, but since you guys are so awesome, there is no tellin' what you might do? Right?

What are you doing graphon? How are you or will you be helping them Lucidity? Have you formed a coalition of atheists yet to help? I think an escort service formed by atheists is a grand idea. That is of course if you can lower yourselves to be around people who are stupid enough to believe in a deity. Or does that only apply to Christians? Do Muslims get a pass for being ignorant enough to believe in a deity? I've always wondered about that. How does that work?

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It's horrible to me to note that we are no longer "American Citizens". All religions, all colors, all nationalitites as our Constitution intended. But we're not all just "American Citizens" anymore, are we? We are completely divided between political groups and now religious preference, or lack there of. Got to hand it to you guys. You are Awesome at divisiveness!

!! Christians don't hate atheists. Christians don't hate Jews, Buddhists, Hindu's or Muslims.

But it's starting to look like atheists hate everybody. Well, except satanists of course.

Yall have a good evening and I will go have a glass of wine, and make a decision whether or not I will continue to read and post here. I can't take all the atheist love much anymore.

a reply to: angeldoll

It's not about religion. It's about being human. That's the point.

Is this like an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I think your message will be lost on angeldoll.


Afterall angeldoll somehow missed all the posts explaining that the satanist group is actually a group of atheists.


Pastafarians don't actually believe that a flying spaghetti monster is a god/creator and most people get that, but for some reason when it is explained the church of satan doesn't actually believe in satan it goes over their head.

a reply to: angeldoll

Well, assuming that "graphon" is referring to me ... I'll be directing my charitable efforts where I always do ... to homeless LGBT youth (Lost and Found Youth Atlanta), feeding the Atlanta hungry and homeless (Atlanta Food Bank), and providing Christmas presents for kids at the local Women's Shelter near my office (50 miles away). I also plan, this year, to support children "adopted" by the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory, as well as The Satanic Temple's efforts wherever I can.

There, is that charitable enough for you? Does that meet your high standards for personal giving? Does that sate your "holier than thou BS" that is far more hateful than anything I or anyone in this thread has directed at Christians ... by a longshot???

Please don't complain that atheists, Satanists and Muslims are somehow at fault for the fragmentation of American culture. PS: Read some history ... in the Constitution as written, all "colors" equated to White English Male; slaves (as you might remember legal at the time) only counted as 3/5ths of a human being. While I love the Constitution dearly, such glossing over of actual historical fact is rather pathetic.

What in the world does "atheists hate everybody" even mean? As compared with the universal outflowing of Christian kindness we see around us everyday? Please.

As with many in this thread, I don't think you've bothered to even ATTEMPT to understand the distinctions made here since of course, anyone not in the sacred boat of your "church" seems to be on your hit-list.

I don't know anything about "atheist love" shown here, but your post certainly gives more than enough proof of hate for atheists (and Satanists, and anyone else that doesn't fit your favored mold.)

Since you asked such personal questions, I've responded with personal answers ... perhaps I may be excused (or not).

originally posted by: coldkidc
Is this like an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing?

Let me offer you a novel idea: Members of The Satanic Temple, whether atheist, artist, or what not, offered to support other human beings at a time when those particular human beings (Muslims) are being treated, by and large, like crap.

If you noticed ... the first Tenet of the Temple is: "One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason."

I'm not sure when "compassion and empathy" became the sole province of the Devil, but given what I've seen here, it doesn't surprise me.