18 artificial intelligence researchers reveal the profound changes coming to our lives

This is a good read and these researchers see some profound changes. I do believe this will occur because this space is growing rapidly and we're talking about technology that learns. Here's more:

Artificial intelligence (AI) has been changing our lives for decades, but never has AI felt more ubiquitous than now.

It seems as though not a week passes without yet another AI system overcoming an unprecedented hurdle or outperforming humans.

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Here's some of the things the Researchers say:

Pieter Abbeel says robots will keep us safer, especially from disasters.

Shimon Whiteson says we will all become cyborgs.

Yoky Matsuoka says these implants will make humans better at everything.

Thomas Dietterich doesn't stop there, he hopes AI will turn us into superhumans.

The truth is, we need these machines to learn. Data is growing so fast, it will take humans years to go through the data and make connections and in some cases it might be impossible because there's not enough time. Machine learning algorithms can go through data in a few months that might take humans 4 or 5 years.

Just imagine the explosion of knowledge. It will increase very rapidly and as a species we will be smarter. The downside is, we will use these intelligent machines for everything and we will come to rely on it just like we rely on the internet today. It will be different because it will learn for us.

Mr. Cooper introduced me to a concept that I think would only become more advanced under the control of A.I.

From Behold a Pale Horse:

The Harvard Economic Research Project (1948-) was an extension of World War II Operations Research. Its purpose was to discover the science of controlling an economy: at first the American economy, and then the world economy. It was felt that with sufficient mathematical foundation and data, it would be nearly as easy to predict and control the trend of an economy as to predict and control the trajectory of a projectile. Such has proven to be the case. Moreover, the economy has been transformed into a guided missile on target.

The immediate aim of the Harvard project was to discover the economic structure, what forces change that structure, how the behavior of the structure can be predicted, and how it can be manipulated. What was needed was a well-organized knowledge of the mathematical structures and interrelationships of investment, production, distribution, and consumption.

To make a short story of it all, it was discovered that an economy obeyed the same laws as electricity and that all of the mathematical theory and practical and computer know-how developed for the electronic field could be directly applied in the study of economics. This discovery was not openly declared, and its more subtle implications were and are kept a closely guarded secret, for example that in an economic model, human life is measured in dollars, and that the electric spark generated when opening a switch connected to an active inductor is mathematically analogous to the initiation of war.

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That part of the book always stuck with me. Computers have aided them in this process and algorithms that can think or learn will only accelerate our enslavement under the guise of security and convenience.

a reply to: neoholographic

test subjects needed? :3

Excellent. I Cannot wait for these deep learning algorithms and programs to become more widespread and come into the world. We need more AI. I want a god damned brain chip that can make me smarter, make me remember things better, increase my intelligence. If i lose a limb I want to be able to replace it with a working limb that will work as well if not better than the original. Most of all I want to replace my eyes with eyes that are able to see more clearly, in darkness, in light, with zoom functions, that can see different wavelengths, etc. Better eyes than the eyes I currently have. Better than 20/20 vision. I want to be able to download knowledge into my brain. I want to talk to a REAL artificially created REAL intelligence. We will get there soon I think. I think once a human brain is actually simulated and it starts learning, just like a normal human would, and it could begin to understand programming, It can then make itself smarter and smarter, much faster and faster, and then.... Technological singularity is created. I WANT to talk to it. I want it to help us all move forward. I believe it will...

Deus Ex - Human Revolution!!! Transcendence!

I dont think these things will make us smarter at all

Is someone who uses a calculator a maths genius? Is someone who owns a thesaurus great with words?

What these things will do is make us lazy and stupid and prevent the human race from ever reaching its full physical and intellectual capabilities.

Look at idiot savants, Im sure it would be possible to train humans to either use or reprogramme their minds to act in a similar way but sadly humans being human we will no doubt take the easy route and most likely lose our humanity while doing so.

How long before a chip in our brain becomes our brain in a jar I wonder?

I made a post on a similar thread recently that had to do with augmented intelligence. I’m just gonna copy parts of that post into this thread to save time. It amazes me that progress in A.I. is happening so quickly. It seems every day or 2 I read about another giant step being taken successfully. It’s like once it starts to click, then everything falls into place and suddenly cascades, rushing to the forefront.

Regarding augmented intelligence, there are those like Ray Kurzweil (futurist and current chief engineer at Google) and the Transhumanists who share a very positive outlook on the development of these technologies. The idea being that humanity, or an offshoot, will rapidly advance alongside our machine brothers and sisters. Many will ultimately become a hybrid species, possessing not only physical superiority over unenhanced humans, but also extended life and an augmented intelligence equal to the machines we’ve created. Assuming this to be the course we take, it’s a nobrainer that from here on humanity, as we know it, is facing extinction. In this scenario the machines will not have to destroy us; we will do that ourselves, as we join the machines in their world.

I can’t knock anyone’s desire to improve their condition. I’d sure like to. However, even though it seems inevitable now, it’s still too soon to rule out that it may just be a pipedream. There are too many questions left to be answered - simply too many issues and unknowns.

For instance, if machine intelligence advances in the manner some have predicted, it may be futile to expect to keep up with it by going hybrid, with augmented intelligence, etc. Having instant access via brain implants to all the information on the internet wouldn’t necessarily make us smarter, more logical, or better problem solvers than we are now. At least not significantly smarter. After all, we have that very same access now, albeit via a keyboard. A superintelligent machine will likely be capable of continually reprogramming itself, fine tuning it’s logical/analytical processing capabilities on the fly. We hybrids would need to find a similar mechanism for upgrading/reprogramming our bio-circuitry if we’re to keep up. Natural evolution just wouldn’t hack it - it’s far too slow. And so, unless we literally become one with the machines, we’re not even in the race. And if we can’t keep up, then we humans/hybrids would probably become a subservient species, looked upon by our own creation in the same way as we view the apes today.

There is a chance (likelihood) that we will be capable of dramatically increasing intelligence via genetic engineering procedures. There have already been successful results in lab experiments with mice. Putting it into practice on humans, however, would require leaping over numerous hurdles.

It seems I’ve read somewhere that due to human biological constraints/limitations, there may be a ceiling on just how far genetic engineering techniques could take us on the road to superintelligence. So, it may be that the machines still hold all the aces here, and will inevitably outpace humans in the smarts department regardless. Hmmm...

It has made me wonder, though, what the world would be like if everyone had an I.Q. over 10,000. IDK, but it seems to me it could be kinda creepy. I just don’t know...

Personally, I find it all really fascinating. I just think it’s too soon to make definate plans. There are so many directions this could go in - some good, and some terrifying.

Good thread, neoholographic - something we all need to think about...

PS: BTW, I'm not convinced that sentience is a requirement for superintelligence. Feeling emotions may even be a barrier, as it could lead to poor/dangerous decision making...

PPS: Checkout THIS SITE for a little preview of what’s around the corner.

originally posted by: DaRAGE
Excellent. I Cannot wait for these deep learning algorithms and programs to become more widespread and come into the world. We need more AI. I want a god damned brain chip that can make me smarter, make me remember things better, increase my intelligence. If i lose a limb I want to be able to replace it with a working limb that will work as well if not better than the original. Most of all I want to replace my eyes with eyes that are able to see more clearly, in darkness, in light, with zoom functions, that can see different wavelengths, etc. Better eyes than the eyes I currently have. Better than 20/20 vision. I want to be able to download knowledge into my brain. I want to talk to a REAL artificially created REAL intelligence. We will get there soon I think. I think once a human brain is actually simulated and it starts learning, just like a normal human would, and it could begin to understand programming, It can then make itself smarter and smarter, much faster and faster, and then.... Technological singularity is created. I WANT to talk to it. I want it to help us all move forward. I believe it will...

Deus Ex - Human Revolution!!! Transcendence!

Me too. More human than human. Yeah sign me up for all of that.

Deus Ex looks bloody fantastic.

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
I dont think these things will make us smarter at all

Is someone who uses a calculator a maths genius? Is someone who owns a thesaurus great with words?

What these things will do is make us lazy and stupid and prevent the human race from ever reaching its full physical and intellectual capabilities.

If I get a cybernetic transplant or whatever that allows me to solve algorithms within seconds or twice as fast as a regular human, then I think we're headed the right path.

You go figure out how to build a cabin. I'm going to figure out how to build a spaceship!

a reply to: neoholographic

it will learn for us.

Not only that,after awhile it understands that it could have rights too.

And at that moment it all shall change..

Nope, not impressed.

Anyone watch Battlestar Galactica and see how AI turned against us. Once a machine starts to learn for itself and gets as smart as us. it's a pandora's box that cannot be closed.

Humans are unpredictable enough, I really do not fancy having to deal with stronger, smarter impetuous machines,

a reply to: markosity1973

Maybe we're biological cyborgs to, I mean look at our history, I believe there periods missing in our time line here on earth . Some stories tell that mankind has been a product caused by some higher intelligence.

Then there are indications we may have started twice on this world.

Could it be that every episode that restarted this theoritical evolution caused just because something created a better version of ourselves, like for an stupid example ,the neanderthals created the homosapiens and wiped them self of the earth?

a reply to: 0bserver1

All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.

Not the AI hype again
What you read in public is old hat, although, I don´t know what´s more sad:
The overwhelming amount of people who do not grasp the concepts of "AI" (leave alone the differences) but need to write articles about it (not directed at you OP) or the overwhelming amount of people reading those, who then think they learned something from that :-/

Also, I would be careful to praise this technology.
I saw at the CCC what some youngsters are coming up with on their own (although, not new idea).
The future wont be humans trying to find vulnerabilities in code.

But that´s just an old mans perception, don´t trust in it.

a reply to: neoholographic

Thing with technology such as this is it will only be available to the privileged few in the short term. And by the time it becomes mainstream or the norm regarding the rest of humanity, they will probably be extinct due to the overtly totalitarian surveillance techniques and measures said technology will bring about.

a reply to: neoholographic

dude do you scope the tech news full time?

One thing that will separate us from machines is our imagination

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

How long before a chip in our brain becomes our brain in a jar I wonder?

Are there ethical laws internationally that prevent this from happening? Or do these laws constantly be rewritten after some research center says that it's save ?

a reply to: neoholographic

Considering that a large percentage of this information generated via, say, the internet etc, is porn, spam, social media trite, tweets, opinions, propaganda, and funny cat videos...... will it really be worth it?

Imagine full body and mental controll 100%

Psychic powers here we come!

a reply to: neoholographic

I love how everyone is jumping the cyborg route. However I will wait for the version that doesn't require hardware or very little. I want biological artificial intelligence made of living tissue and the ability to connect to wireless signals. At the very lest I want the ability of neuron mapping and reconfiguration for total optimization of the brain. The Best option I see is A.I. doesn't use quantum computing yet so I will wait for the Quantum A.I. version. Imagine the ability of having more computing power then all the computers combined on earth right now.