RNC chairman: Republicans are 'cooked' if defeated in 2016

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Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus fears the worst for his party in the event of a loss in 2016.

During an exclusive interview with the Washington Examiner Thursday, Priebus said that the GOP will be "cooked" as a national party if they fail to take back the White House next November.

The RNC chair made the remarks when asked how he squares the party's role in down-ballot races considering the importance of winning back the White House after eight years of Democratic control.

I don't believe that! As long as the GOP is the lap dog of the Corporatism Oligarchy; they can still buy any election they want.

America has the best damn government money can buy!!

a reply to: olaru12

I don't buy it either. It seems more placing themselves in the victim role.

a reply to: olaru12

There is some truth to it. Once the percentage of kept voters in America pass 50%, there's just no rational way to expect the GOP will ever get those voters to vote against their Meal Ticket short of a collapse of America that would make the subsidy/welfare train completely derail. When the takers not only outnumber the providers, but also stand as the deciders of representatives and policy, the future is awfully bleak (unless, of course, you're a taker, I suppose.)

a reply to: burdman30ott6

The GOP really has themselves to blame for losing voters. They alienated the minorities, women and the poor with their elitism.

Does that matter? Probably not....

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: olaru12

There is some truth to it. Once the percentage of kept voters in America pass 50%, there's just no rational way to expect the GOP will ever get those voters to vote against their Meal Ticket short of a collapse of America that would make the subsidy/welfare train completely derail. When the takers not only outnumber the providers, but also stand as the deciders of representatives and policy, the future is awfully bleak (unless, of course, you're a taker, I suppose.)

One of the major problem the republicans are seeing, is that many of those they define as "Takers", are SS receiptients that vote republican, once they lose that base due to natural causes, the republican party among the young in this country is toast due to it's stand on social issues.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The GOP really has themselves to blame for losing voters. They alienated the minorities, women and the poor with their elitism.

Does that matter? Probably not....

Add that to the fact that the human race is becoming more liberal and progressive by the day all the while old money and regressive minded people age and die by the day they take their antiquated ways with them to the grave.

The GOP are already finished.

Highlighted by the fact that they have a reality TV star as their main candidate to grab the reality TV generation of votes.

Finito.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The GOP really has themselves to blame for losing voters. They alienated the minorities, women and the poor with their elitism.

Was it elitism or a lack of disingenuous pandering and offering a bunch of handouts in exchange for votes?

a reply to: olaru12

I don't see a difference between republicans and democrats. The democrats won't let the republicans lose too much though. Then they wouldn't have anyone else to blame when they start stinking up the US.

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
One of the major problem the republicans are seeing, is that many of those they define as "Takers", are SS receiptients that vote republican, once they lose that base due to natural causes, the republican party among the young in this country is toast due to it's stand on social issues.

No, I'm referring to the 48.5 percent of Americans who paid negative or zero net income tax last year. That doesn't involve SS recipients unless they are drawing income additional to their SS.

a reply to: olaru12

Actually, He has a point.

I believe that the dissatisfaction with the Republican Establishment in the event of a loss will produce a third party.

That third party would drain the Republican Party of membership with the remaining 'RHINOs' moving into the Democrat camp if for no other reason than re-election chances.

In other words, the Republican Party goes the way of the Whigs...which is exactly how the Republican Party was borne.

Although I'm not sure that's what he was referring to...LOL. More fear mongering in response to the current battle in the party ranks.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Add that to the fact that the human race is becoming more liberal and progressive by the day all the while old money and regressive minded people age and die by the day they take their antiquated ways with them to the grave.

Ah, but I am still a young sonuvabitch and I'm teaching those antiquated regressive ways to a whole new generation, my friend. We're like cockroaches, you'll never be free from us!

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The GOP really has themselves to blame for losing voters. They alienated the minorities, women and the poor with their elitism.

Was it elitism or a lack of disingenuous pandering and offering a bunch of handouts in exchange for votes?

Elitism...the GOP could have come up with some viable social programs but they needed that money to fight their BS wars ala the Bushes.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Add that to the fact that the human race is becoming more liberal and progressive by the day all the while old money and regressive minded people age and die by the day they take their antiquated ways with them to the grave.

Ah, but I am still a young sonuvabitch and I'm teaching those antiquated regressive ways to a whole new generation, my friend. We're like cockroaches, you'll never be free from us!

That fits neatly in to my (self-expected) response...

The GOPs only chance is to indoctrinate the young in the red states to vote for party instead of candidate...


Another thing that has destroyed democracy and turned politics into a laughing stock.



You should let people decide for themselves. (Not you burdman, generally I mean, I don't assume for one second there wasn't at least a hint of sarcasm intended in your post).

The Republicans have control of the House and the Senate. They even have a radical / extremist faction taking over the House. If they win the Presidency, I think they will be doing pretty good for themselves. If they lose the Presidency, then there is a Democratic President who might appoint some Supreme Court justices but I don't think it is all over for the Republicans.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

Was it elitism or a lack of disingenuous pandering and offering a bunch of handouts in exchange for votes?

But the Republicans do pander and offer a bunch of handouts in exchange for votes. They were just stupid enough to pander and give those handouts exclusively to the top 1%.

a reply to: nwtrucker

I have been reading that the Republican party might be splitting into two parties due to the differences between the corporate class of Republicans and the uneducated religious zealots. I am just trying to describe the two different types of Republicans. It turns out there is a difference in their views.

Let's hope the Republicans are done after 2016. I hope the Democrats are done too. We can do better than these two political parties.

Sadly, Democrats won't exist with out Republicans and vice versa.

Neither of these parties will die.

originally posted by: olaru12
the GOP could have come up with some viable social programs but they needed that money to fight their BS wars ala the Bushes.

Not without violating the wishes of the party's core supporters, they couldn't have. Don't forget, we are strong proponents of "You want it, you earn it." Personal responsibility is the only social program that is actually fair and doesn't depend on another working hard to fund a bunch of folks they shouldn't be responsible for.

originally posted by: Hefficide
But the Republicans do pander and offer a bunch of handouts in exchange for votes. They were just stupid enough to pander and give those handouts exclusively to the top 1%.

...as opposed to the Democrats who give the handouts to the 1% and cast a few more at the bottom 48%...

a reply to: darkbake

Using your own adjectives, I see no difference between the Corporate Republicans and the Corporate Democrats....actually, there IS a difference now that I think about it. The Corporate Republicans are honest about it...

As far as "religious zealots" goes, the Theophiles tend to reside in the Democrat Party as well....

The constitutional end of the party knows full well-as you do- that religion is a freedom....and junior to that Constitution. Therefore no irrational fear....