Protesters gather to hold anti-Islam rally outside Phoenix mosque

KSAZ reports 19 other cities held protests organized by the “Global Rally for Humanity” group against radical Islam. Many Muslim protesters showed up as well to give their community a voice.

“They're trying to say that the whole religion, or all of the Muslims are just like the violent extremists," said Sumayyah Dawud, who is Muslim.

Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center said, rally organizers are displaying their bigotry.

Rally organizer John Ritzheimer said he’s not against Muslims, but he’s against what he calls their ideology.

Protesters gather to hold anti-Islam rally outside Phoenix mosque

Yea, real classy. I mean it was only afew days ago that a kid with rightwing leanings shot up a college in Arizona but these folks feel it necessary to go harassing muslims again. I love it how the rally organizer claims he's not against muslims, but he opposes their ideology. I mean they were protesting outside a Mosque, so what? He doesn't mind the muslims so long as they aren't muslims? Does that make sense? It's too bad this guy is completely clueless about the constitution and the rights afforded to citizens and residents in America.

Ah yes they came with automatic rifles as well.... lovely. Harassing and intimidating others:
www.houstonchronicle.com...

Stay classy Arizona.

19 other cities had their own protests too.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center said, rally organizers are displaying their bigotry

well...you can call it bigotry...but people evidently have feelings. In the land of the free...they are allowed to express verbally their feelings on the matter.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Agreed. When you gather a bunch of hostile, screaming and armed men outside a place of worship with women and children, it's clear that the motive is to intimidate those inside from exercising their rights guaranteed under the First Amendment.

If your motive is to intimidate and scare families who have done nothing except exercise their constitutional rights, isn't that, in itself, terrorism?

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center said, rally organizers are displaying their bigotry

well...you can call it bigotry...but people evidently have feelings. In the land of the free...they are allowed to express verbally their feelings on the matter.

At no point has there any mention that they had no right to protest. Nobody has argued this. Just because they have the right to vocally protest, doesn't make it right. This includes carrying assualt rifles, harassing a random mosque, a place of worship not much unlike a church. I mean really? And after the shootings at North Arizona by a rightwing nut? These individuals aren't interested in the real issues or respecting the freedoms of others, clearly.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The protesters have a right to protest, but where do we draw the line between free speech and the right to worship ones religion? How long do you think this would be tolerated if it happened outside a catholic or baptist church?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

This includes carrying assualt rifles, harassing a random mosque, a place of worship not much unlike a church. I mean really? And after the shootings at North Arizona by a rightwing nut? These individuals aren't interested in the real issues or respecting the freedoms of others, clearly.

well...most probably you are right. But what are the real issues you speak off ?

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

I think it's fairly clear the issues I'm speaking of. What's not to understand? Why do you not see an issue? Do you think it's ok for a large vocal ground to stand outside a place of worship, with assualt rifles, harassing those, including woman and children, going in and out?

Why should people accept this kind of mentality? Is this ok with you?

originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The protesters have a right to protest, but where do we draw the line between free speech and the right to worship ones religion? How long do you think this would be tolerated if it happened outside a catholic or baptist church?

were do we draw the line ? we can only answer this individually...I myself am not religious...but I don't mind others practicing it...in their homes. Once you go publicly...you inevitably step on some toes. Public arena is just that...public. And while it's public...it's open to protesters or nutcases. Introducing religions in public places like schools, workplaces...etc...will only widen the divide.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

well...I'm against guns in general...but America is proud to have it's guns...so you kinda have to stick with it.

For comparison...in my country you could probably assemble a group for this kind of protest...but more than likely...without guns. It's a cultural thing. To Americans...carrying guns is something mundane. To most of the other world...it isn't.

I would discourage anyone protesting to resort to any kind of violence...but it's hard to expect it once the crowd is armed...and feeling strong because of it.

a reply to: Southern Guardian


The very idea of an anti-Islam rally, urinates on the constitutional document that some of these so called protestors would have us believe, that they are acting in defence of.

Here, let me fix your title for you!

Ignorant xenophobes gather to hold anti-Islam rally outside Phoenix mosque.

There... That's better.

It is absolutely fine, and reasonable to protest against radicalisation and terrorism, absolutely fine. But if one believes that the best way to do that, is to tar an entire demographic with a broad brush, rather than pick out the actual culprits, then ones interest is not combating extremism, but is in becoming extremist oneself.

originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Agreed. When you gather a bunch of hostile, screaming and armed men outside a place of worship with women and children, it's clear that the motive is to intimidate those inside from exercising their rights guaranteed under the First Amendment.

If your motive is to intimidate and scare families who have done nothing except exercise their constitutional rights, isn't that, in itself, terrorism?

YES IT IS!

Remember when just about everyone in the GOP were constantly slamming the POTUS for not calling terrorists, "Muslims?" Oh wait, they're still doing it.

How about we start calling these mass shooters what they really are? "Radical Right-Wing Terrorist!"

Just the other night, while listening to a discussion on guns and mass shootings, (I can't remember where) I listened to one of the commentators as he discussed the role that mental illness plays and what he said was something along these lines;

While there is no single cause for all mass shootings, in many cases there is a common link that has to do with mental instability coupled with right-wing extremism.

He went on to say that statistics actually show that those diagnosed with mental illness are more likely to be the victim of violent crime than to commit one.

Then he suggested that maybe we should call those who fit the bill, exactly what they are, which is "Radical Right-Wing Terrorists."

Sounds like "he hit the nail on the head" if you ask me.

While these armed protestors have yet to commit a crime, it's the radical mentality they promote that has the potential to push those with instability issues "Right" over the edge. Not to mention what they're doing to the parishioners of the mosque.

It's both stupid and dangerous.

originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
a reply to: Southern Guardian

If your motive is to intimidate and scare families who have done nothing except exercise their constitutional rights, isn't that, in itself, terrorism?

THIS

They're not there "peacefully" protesting a message. They're armed ammosexuals who want to intimidate people out of their neighborhood because they don't agree with their religious beliefs.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

A bunch of idiots invoking their first amendment right to protest because they are upset that other Americans are utilizing THEIR first amendment right of freedom of religion... This Islamophobia is really starting to get out of hand.

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

I think it's fairly clear the issues I'm speaking of. What's not to understand? Why do you not see an issue? Do you think it's ok for a large vocal ground to stand outside a place of worship, with assualt rifles, harassing those, including woman and children, going in and out?

Why should people accept this kind of mentality? Is this ok with you?

I think if you hold the issue of right wing extremism to heart you and some like minded individuals should get guns and go protest. Stay off private property and follow the laws and raise awareness until your heart is content

a reply to: Reallyfolks

So your solution to this volatile situation is to have other people create more volatile situations? That can only end well...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Reallyfolks

So your solution to this volatile situation is to have other people create more volatile situations? That can only end well...

Now the act of protesting is volatile???? I seem to remember this happening before and no one was hurt and some of the protestors even took the Muslims up on their offer to come in and pray in their mosque.

I see a time when the only protest acceptable will be against things everyone agrees with, which eliminates the entire concept of protest to begin with. People will probably be offended by this protest, and I think being offended is now a capital crime in America.

I find it funny that the usual "FOX is a BS news site" people are in here actually sticking up for a FOX news story....outside of that, OP, your second link is a FAIL. That pic is from a different protest from May (read the caption under the pic), not October. I have not seen a report of anyone at the October protests carrying weapons.



Gotta love the agenda driven post though!

Who are the radical terrorists?

Please raise your gun.

www.loonwatch.com...

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Were there protesters outside an Arizona mosque, or not?

I don't think OP is the agenda-driven one here.