The Consequences of Putin's "Holy War."

originally posted by: MrSpad
Attacking the regular everyday rebels and doing so with dumb bombs causing civilian causalities is going to tick of moderate Muslims as well.

you keep saying dumb bombs.. but they're using laser guided and bomber guided bombs mostly.

Civilian casualties?

They're hitting ISIS head quarters, tank columns, training grounds.. The US media will shout about civilian casualties because that's what they need to do.. no matter if Russia hits an alqaeda terrorist on his own in a farm paddock. the US and its stooges will scream bloody mary about civilian casualties.. why? because Russia is destroying the USA efforts of taking over Syria.

I suppose because ISIS don't wear uniforms and wear civilian clothing that everyone in the western propaganda could be called civilian eh?

While the US Is busy bombing Afghan hospitals and funding terrorist groups to oust Assad.. Russia's come in and bombed the terrorist groups..

I don't care who's backing them.. they're terrorist groups trying to oust a government.

BOMB THEM TO HELL AND SC3W THE US and its IMPERIAL SYSTEM!

Go Russia!


Its disappointing someone as on the ball as you talks like this.. you just sound like another FOX NEWS analyst! :/

a reply to: Xcathdra

I think it has more to do with the perception Russia wont allow an attack on Syria or Iran and less to do with BRICS.

Which raises the question of who ? Unless if ISIS and the other groups were only there to weaken them before the big dogs moved in . Who in your mind would be the threat of attacking Syria openly ?

a reply to: Agit8dChop

But they only struck Daesh twice. I guess that's okay because you figure all Muslims are alike.

a reply to: DJW001

Really.. twice? thats a concrete figure? your on the ground looking at the bomb strikes are you?

Its not twice according the the press releases from Russia..

but I suppose your getting your intel from the press releases from the USA..

See how this works?

Your little jab about ''Muslims all look alike'' is typical of ignorant arguments.

Paint me to be a racist or a bigot because I am not backing the same western nonsense you are.

To be honest, the terrorists could be kiwi's, yanks, brits, japs, chinese.. i couldnt give a damn what colour or race they are or who backs them, yanks, Russia, Iraqi it could be anyone.

If they are terrorists wanting to behead people and slaughter children then i hope Russia lands a bomb right on their ass.

how about you? if they are American backed and financed terrorists.. would you rather Russia leave them alone?

a reply to: ketsuko

That is when Mystery Babylon is the only part that fits the mix when considering Israel and any of it's natural enemies .It could all be true that it's somehow the Jews or someone controlling the Jews that is the player behind the scenes but it boils down to them biblically for me .

Can someone tell me why I should be supporting either NATO or Russia?

Leon Panetta said we were going to be in a 30 year war against ISIS,so the military industrial complex was going to let these scum whom they and their allies financed loose for decades and pick up billions to supposedly fight a war against them.

Too bad for the innocent people of the area.

ISIS was a scam now their money making schemes are up in smoke courtesy of the Russian airforce they dont know what to do.

Go Putin

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I wasn't even considering prophecy in this case.

I'm just looking at Israel as a nation that is trying to survive. They don't along with their neighbors and their neighbors don't get along with them. And the neighbors don't get along with each other.

So long as everyone is busy worrying about not being attacked by their neighbors, equilibrium was more or less maintained. However, if any one party gains too much of an advantage, then they become a potential threat to everyone else. Thus, enemies team up.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Nah it wouldnt be us Kiwi's....there would be no beer left over there............and everyone knows we dont have an army,lol.

a reply to: crazyewok

I think at the moment ,it is Russia that is trying to stabilize Syria and maybe the Syrian refugees can go back home . NATO is only a Idea that should have collapse with the Berlin wall and the fall of the soviet Union . But some parasites have nothing to do with real peace despite what the host has come to think .

a reply to: ketsuko

It's probably more to do with Israeli paranoia about their past and what their holy book says .Or may be saying . They have a history and they have a future and there are troubled times a coming for them .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Not even in Ukraine! That is a proxy war as well.

originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: Agit8dChop

Nah it wouldnt be us Kiwi's....there would be no beer left over there............and everyone knows we dont have an army,lol.

kia ora cúz

If we went there we'd call peace for the world cup no doubt.
whats up with the AB's.. better start lifting or the wallabies will get us! :/

a reply to: CharlesT

I have a reasonably credible source that 120 SAS soldiers in Syria last year were dressed as ISIS and attacking the Syrian military directly(google it it is out there) regime change not attacking ISIS has always been the objective.

ISIS as I've mentioned above is a scam to keep the billions flowing to the MIC for decades,but Putin has thrown a major spanner in those works.

There probably has been SF in Ukraine too

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

To label Holy War is laughable, I think Putin is forcing his religion on the Islamic State, Violence is violence, whether Holy or not, IS have to go and Putin is doing the right thing of bombing the Western backed insurgents.

The problem is, the factions that he has been bombing have not been Daesh for the most part; he is trying to determine the outcome of the civil war. He can do that, but it's going to have major blowback, as they say in the trade.

You refuse to accept the truth that Syria was never a civil war, will you. It was an invasion from the start to remove an obstacle to build an oil pipeline. The US is trying to eliminate European dependence on Russian oil by building a pipeline through Syria into Turkey and Assad is blocking the deal. Civil War my arse. It's an invasion to over-through.

originally posted by: lightedhype
a reply to: DJW001

Let me clarify. Your scenario wont happen. Why? Because Putin has the support of his people. Putin does not need to allow a false flag or even real terrorist attack happen to his country.

All of these factions declared war on Russia so that means 9/11 Over there?? Lmao. Give me a break.

The entire muslim world has been against the US for over a decade now. How many attacks have we seen? Oh thats right.

Yea. Not counting the bull# events or prevention of events. Sorry.

Basically. Russia gov wont have to terrorize its own people to do anything. They will simply do.

Russia is simply about to make every single American action in the ME moot.

They don't have to as every Russian citizen knows US hegemony has painted a bulls-eye on the back of their nation.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: the2ofusr1

Considering Assad just stated in an interview he would step down if it would help, he immediately contradicted himself by stating there is no need for him to step down.

Syria is not a democracy. If it were it would not be controlled by the Assad's for as long as it has.

Man, the United States is not even a Democracy any longer. We go to the polls to vote for politicians that have the backing of the moneyed interests that don't give a rats arss which one of them gets elected because they are all bought and paid for and will do whatever they are told to do. Try writing a well thought out letter of concern about whatever and see if you get a satisfactory answer. I seriously doubt the reply will satisfy your concerns because they answer to only MONEY......

We aren't a Democracy any longer. Face that truth!

a reply to: DJW001

You do know that according to the UN charter that the US agreed too and signed that it is illegal for us to be arming any type of opposition groups in any other country? That the only faction of any country that can call for help is the legitimate government(sitting)? Putin made very clear that they would be going in IN SUPPORT of the sitting government(Assad's). That means that anyone opposing his government is on the firing line right now with Russia,because Russia is not going to play nice with them and walk up and ask,"are you a moderate terrorist or an extreme one?" Those worthless moderates have been giving the weapons we gave them to the extremists. So is there such a thing as a moderate? I think not. I think we need to stop meddling in other countries affairs and let the people there sort it out themselves. After all,the Syrians voted Assad in. Let them live with it. Not our circus,not our monkeys.

a reply to: Dimithae

You do know that according to the UN charter that the US agreed too and signed that it is illegal for us to be arming any type of opposition groups in any other country?

Really? Please educate me. Cut and paste the exact part of the charter that says that. I can't wait.

a reply to: DJW001

DAESH is IS and ISIS...ISIL is a variation used to slur and impugn Israel (L is for Levant-Israel). Obama (and his minions) ALWAYS say "ISIL" (in a "take that Bibi kinda way).

Obama, how cannot utter "Islamic terrorist" EVER is playing tee ball (the coy little zings like ISIL), and ISIS, per Obama is the "JV team." Russia then is the Super Bowl winner...most points scored; most ground gained and with a fought out game plan (i.e., not spending millions to train a few dozen "moderates" who then defect to the enemy, and no dumb "rules of engagement."

And for my bet on the start of WWIII, Argentine Pres. Kristina Kirchner nicely ties up the early doing of the Iran nuke deal. She emphatically states back in 2010, the Obama adm INSISTED she sell her nuke centrifuge to IRAN intur for her country to get civilian nuke fuel/reactors. Can we say Treason and will Putin split a rib laughing at the amateurish Obama?