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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: kellyjay
gay marraige was federally illegal,
Marriage laws are state laws.
DOMA did not make same sex marriage illegal. It "defined" marriage as it fit into federal laws.
www.law.cornell.edu...
It also said that no one could cause a state to respect a legal same sex marriage entered into in any other state.
It too, was found unconstitutional.
Not federal law, which is what you claimed. And again, the court said the law he broke was using unapproved forms.
issuing the same sex marraiges he was breaking the law by doing so.
the left thought it was ok he broke the law based on his opinion but vilify kim for not following the law based on her opinion.....
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: kellyjay
They did something that was later determined to be unlawful so by your logic they broke the law.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: kellyjay
Not federal law, which is what you claimed. And again, the court said the law he broke was using unapproved forms.
issuing the same sex marraiges he was breaking the law by doing so.
the left thought it was ok he broke the law based on his opinion but vilify kim for not following the law based on her opinion.....
It is not a double standard on the part of "the left". They defended Newsom for supporting gay rights (not for breaking the law) and they vilify Kim for denying them. That seems pretty consistent. No double standard.
originally posted by: xuenchen
Who is getting that "knee hits jaw" feeling?
I see a clear double standard with the issues.
In fact I see 2.
but when kim does the same based on her opinion the left are all"youre breaking the law how dare you think your opinion trumps the law"
try reading my post...but ill give you the cliff notes, gary newmore decided to break the law based on his opinion of what he felt was right and wrong, kim done the same....
one is hailed a hero by the left for breaking the law, kim is villified by the left for doing the same thing....
originally posted by: kellyjay
originally posted by: xuenchen
Who is getting that "knee hits jaw" feeling?
I see a clear double standard with the issues.
In fact I see 2.
seems my post is like one of those optical illusions, if you take two steps to the liberal left the double standard dissapears, but if you take two steps to the conservative right its clear as day
Davis’s arrest was met with cheers by same-sex marriage advocates who for some reason did not demand imprisonment of officials who lawlessly issued gay marriage licenses in clear contravention of state and federal laws. Take, for example, Democrat Gavin Newsom, who is currently the California lieutenant governor. Back in 2004, when gay marriage was banned under California state law, Newsom openly defied the law and used his power as the mayor of San Francisco to force taxpayer-funded government clerks to issue gay marriage licenses:
Just like Kim Davis, who is an elected Democrat, Newsom justified his lawlessness by citing his own conscience and beliefs about right and wrong rather than deferring to the actual laws of his state. If you look for evidence of gay rights advocates chastising Newsom for his blatant lawlessness, you won’t find it. Because it doesn’t exist. You similarly won’t find any evidence of these principled law enforcement purists chastising California state officials for refusing to enforce or defend the Prop 8 ballot initiative in California, which was passed overwhelmingly by California voters.
When you really think about it, though, this whole kerfuffle is obviously the fault of Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who refuses to issue gay marriage licenses. She should’ve known better. She should’ve thought this whole thing through. If Kim Davis really wanted to avoid the ire and attention of progressives and their media allies, she should’ve just videotaped herself killing babies and then selling their organs. Then she could operate with total impunity.
No that's not the position I posted nor was it my intent. My post specifically dealt with one aspect of the OP: his interpretation of the left's outrage in one case versus the other. Nothing else, no hidden agenda.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
So, the position is, gays have a double standard because they applaud those who use their position to further their equal rights cause and vilify those that use their position to oppress and deny them equal rights?
Sorry, that's not a double standard.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
I don't see how equal marriage rights are a left or a right issue. There's just "for" and "agin".