Asteroid Impact on 22 September 2015

Numerous people have been all having the same dream lately, of vast tsunamis ripping across North America. I think I have found a way to test them against reality. Asteroids are pretty much the same, so if you know the diameter, the time and place of impact on the sea, one can calculate the precise wave height, diminishing with distance, as it roars across the ocean and time of impact on any particular place.There have been various rumours and various people having dreams about a 2.5 kilometre hitting near the isle of Mona off Puerto Rica at 2am in the morning, so I set up a spread sheet and plugged the numbers in. Although this would initially produce a 6.4 kilometre water spout, the collossal tsunami would diminish with distance, so a 2AM hit would produce a 115 foot tsunami hitting New York City shortly after 4.06AM in the morning. I have taken numerous dreams where people have time of day, height of wave and locality. Some are crap, but some are producing stunning results. In one person's dream, he is woken up and sees his clock at 1.40AM and is about to be hit by a 70 foot wave. When taking time zones into account, my spreadsheet gave his city being hit shortly after 1.36AM by a wave of a height of 70.04 feet! This vast torrent of dreams with results so bang on consistent with a 2.5 kilometre asteroid hit off Puerto Rica is unnerving. Furthermore, a 2.5 kilometre hit also has further effects. Such an asteroid would smash its way straight through the crust into the mantle. This would result in, in effect, an infinite flood of sea water pouring straight onto an effectively infinite supply superheated liquid mantle at several thousand degrees. It would create, in effect, a monumental geezer with limitless steam triggering an almost unending sequence of tsunamis for many, many years. Finally, those who have dreamt of this and are consistent with this event have generally given 22nd September 2015 as the impact date.

If you have one of these dreams, please list it plus time of day, height of wave and location.

Really? I call BS.
Why cause sept 22, 23, 24th have all been a topic here on ATS.

Who are these "Dreamers" you speak of? Prove it!

Another 15'ner ready to boast about BS.

I still wonder why so many people "foresee" this month to have such an impact. I honestly still don't see much going to happen Maybe one or two things will be out of wack but nothing that won't be unusual in a way; nothing catastrophic. Don't take this post as me berating you or anything. Rather a post where I just don't get as to why all this is coming up and a bit of disbelief posted in it.

This kind of prediction seems extremely popular lately. I don't buy into the fearmongering but have also had recent dreams involving incredibly high waves breaking over city walls.
Something working on the collective unconscious?
Or just doom porn pander?
ETA: My dream involved a city shaped like a coliseum in the middle of the ocean, not America.

It would so produce a monumental geezer!

originally posted by: ADAMandEVIL
This kind of prediction seems extremely popular lately. I don't buy into the fearmongering but have also had recent dreams involving incredibly high waves breaking over city walls.
Something working on the collective unconscious?
Or just doom porn pander?
ETA: My dream involved a city shaped like a coliseum in the middle of the ocean, not America.

That was Atlantis my friend. History repeats itself.

Just like 12/21/12, people want to think they have the "inside story" on the fate of mankind. From what I've seen, all these seers and prophets can't even agree what's going to wipe us out. I've heard everything from an asteroid, economic collapse, war and Divine Retribution is coming in September and it's nothing but a way to get clicks on a Youtube video. No one has a shred of proof, beyond some Bible quotes or a dream. If an astronomer were saying this, I may pay a bit more attention and even then I'd want tracking data.
What I always find so interesting is, many of these Doomsday Prophets live on or near places that will supposedly be wiped out, yet you don't see them running for the hills, do you?
If they truly believed they had a gift and something is coming, why aren't they getting out? I mean, they wouldn't do all this just for attention now would they?
Nah. Couldn't be.

originally posted by: Sheridan91s
It would so produce a monumental geezer!

Yes. That's perfectly normal scientific fact, straight out of any textbook.

a reply to: proob4

MLK had a dream, look what happen to him. See told you so.:

And I had a dream where everyone was equal, happy and free to express themselves as they wanted...

and there were no social strata and we all worked for each other and lived in some psychologically happy utopia nearly free of all physical and mental wants...

and then a darned asteroid came down, hit the ocean and washed it all away with much screaming and cursing... and Petula Clarke's Downtown blaring in the background.

But then again, that abductee from Puerto Rico said the human space people showed him an asteroid strike off his island in the near future... a few years ago.

So ... don't worry, climate catastrophe and normal mortality will get us all in the end, anyway.

I don't normally reply to these kinds of threads, but after seeing so many of them, you're the lucky winner.

Suppose there's something to this: what kind of calculations did you do that would equate a wave that would sweep "across North America?" An impact that would trigger something like that would effectively smash right through the Earth - you're talking about basically the Moon hitting the planet in which case, we wouldn't be alive to even encounter the wave.

Secondly, if this asteroid exists...where is it? We have a transit of the moon tonight, there's plenty of amateurs watching the skies right now, let alone the professionals. Where is this asteroid?

I'd link the news stories, but I know how ATS is when it comes to news outlets and *gasp* god forbid, NASA...

But I beg you and pose the questions above for the pure intentions of amusing discussion.

there is a 2012 forum, maybe ATS should open up a September Doom forum. Same # every year, and no comets or tidal waves.

a reply to: alsace

Care to post the spreadsheet you made up? I don't buy into many predictions, but I enjoy checking math work.

How did to come up with a 2.5km diameter asteroid? What other parameters did you use? Just guess work? How do to figure off the coast of PR?

PR is approximately 1,600 miles (2600 km) from NYC. The wave would be traveling at an average of 800 mph (1300 kph), which isn't impossible, though highly unlikely.

I like to use the Earth Impact Effects Program for simulating impacts. It's backed by science. So I plugged some of your numbers into that, while for others I just used averages.

Distance from impact: 2600 km
Asteroid diameter: 2.5 km
Asteroid density: 1500 kg/m^3 (porous rock)
Impact velocity: 17 m/s
Impact angle: 45°
Impact target: 1500 m deep water.

So let's see what that nets us.

Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
The impact does not make a noticeable change in the tilt of Earth's axis (< 5 hundreths of a degree).
The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.

Hmmm...

Tsunami Wave:

The impact-generated tsunami wave arrives approximately 6.0 hours after impact.

Tsunami wave amplitude is between: 7.9 meters ( = 25.8 feet) and 15.8 meters ( = 51.7 feet).

While that would be devastating, it doesn't quite have the same tinge of doom you're predicting.

Nothing is gonna happen.
I will be cooking out drinking beer.
NASA has said it will pass beyond the moon.
If in fact it were on a course to hit us I am sure the 100's of thousands of astronomers would let us all know.

All this Sept 22/23 hype is weird.

It makes me wonder where it all originated.

So far as I can tell, it has all come from conspiracy sites,
with everyone pointing to everyone else's links.

Who is actually having Sept 22/23 date dreams???

Where are these people, and where are the dates they give?

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

As the commander proceeds to prove some of my point there. Since we're talking about NYC buildings, that equates to roughly 3 to 6 stories, depending on the building.


There comes a point where there's too narrow of a prediction to be factual. Mainly when you have nothing but a dream or a sensation to go on and you get numbers that are down to a few square miles. People tend to overestimate what their "feelings" are. They do this in random sequences a lot - that's what happens with gamblers and they tend to end up destitute.

The same can be said of the 2012-dooms dayers. There was never any evidence to suggest that there were going to be cataclysmic events in December of 2012, nor were there any Mayan predictions of the sort. Michael Coe - one of the chief archaeologists who studied the Mayans and even initially was on board with the dooms day theory even renounced it.

This is shades of difference in what is happening here. You have a group of individuals who are talking about this event because they "have a feeling", they've provided coordinates and gone into what seems like unbelievable detail. That information gets on the mind of another person. They think about it. Then they dream about it. They wake up and post that "ah ha! I had the dream too!" Then it snowballs to another person, and then another. It's a classic case of mass paranoia that's generated by a large number of individuals who are susceptible and gullible for information labeled as truth.

That being said, it is not necessarily the fault of any one individual. I'm sure there are many people out there who do not even realize they do this. But it seems to be the case with many conspiracy theories I read and especially predictions and dooms day theories. They defy logic, reason and reality. They do not provide any logical explanations as to events leading to a date, they just announce when its coming and how it's going to happen. It's a compelling story, and dooms day movies sell, but that's about all they do. We're fascinated with dooms day, even though no one has any predictions that are accurate as to when it will be outside of a few billion years when the Sun eats the planet.

Another doom and gloom post. Cant wait for the day to pass so we can see and heard the next doomsday end of times destruction date. Get a new hobby.

originally posted by: Sheridan91s
It would so produce a monumental geezer!

on behalf of all monumental geezers, I resent your characterization

a reply to: alsace

And when this does not happen will you admit this is all BS crap, and dreamers don't exist?

originally posted by: Shugo
I don't normally reply to these kinds of threads, but after seeing so many of them, you're the lucky winner.

Suppose there's something to this: what kind of calculations did you do that would equate a wave that would sweep "across North America?" An impact that would trigger something like that would effectively smash right through the Earth - you're talking about basically the Moon hitting the planet in which case, we wouldn't be alive to even encounter the wave.

...Errr... No. The moon's diameter is 3,500 miles. This is 2.5 kilometers.

originally posted by: Shugo

Secondly, if this asteroid exists...where is it? We have a transit of the moon tonight, there's plenty of amateurs watching the skies right now, let alone the professionals. Where is this asteroid?

Ask any professional astronomer of any note and he will confirm that a 2.5km is too small to guarantee detection, indeed, they say normally, that the most warning that they could give us is 1 hour... if that.