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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Legal and illegal immigration exist because the big corps that own pretty much everything, need cheap labor to mass produce crap that we purchase, they want cheaper workers with no benefits. Its not a democrat or republican issue its money buying both sides of the house so they can keep on milking the tax payers.
Across the United States, a USA TODAY investigation has found, police routinely allow as many as half of the people wanted for crimes large and small to escape justice simply by venturing a few miles from where they are wanted. In the Las Vegas area alone, police records list more than 408,000 arrest warrants for fugitives who won't be pursued beyond the edges of Clark County.
originally posted by: Daedal
a reply to: xuenchen
There are millions of fugitives in the United States, some are undocumented, most are citizens. Deportation costs and keeping individuals locked up in immigration jails who have no history of violent offenses only burdens the system.
And illegal immigrants using our education and healthcare don't burden the system?
I'm not saying known convicts should be released, but if I look at the stats posted in the OP, out of 350,000 an estimated 16,000 were known violent offenders and some 14,000 had dui convictions.
So the other 330,000 were minor related offenses?
Problems within the justice system are not immigration related only; when it comes to apprehending fugitives or releasing them, states and local counties do it regularly, regardless if your an undocumented or a US citizen.
2 wrongs don't make it right. Also you are comparing someone who is here legally commiting a crime to someone that shouldnt be here eliminating that crime all-together.
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Across the United States, a USA TODAY investigation has found, police routinely allow as many as half of the people wanted for crimes large and small to escape justice simply by venturing a few miles from where they are wanted. In the Las Vegas area alone, police records list more than 408,000 arrest warrants for fugitives who won't be pursued beyond the edges of Clark County.
It's not just undocumented individuals they're not pursuing, it's everyone included, to some extent, and the reasons very from money to paperwork; burdensome extradition processes and there's just to many fugitives.
So here's a question.
Are the legal citizens with fugitive status okay, or is it just because your undocumented that it's wrong?
Neither is OK. Both need to be fixed, but they are seperate from each other, this isnt a situation were the legal citizens are causing the illegals to commit crimes, they are 2 entirely seperate issues.
How long will this continue to get worse before the problems are solved?
Undocumented immigrants provided a surplus of $35.1 billion to the Medicare Trust Fund between 2000 and 2011, according to a new Journal of General Internal Medicine study recently published. The findings challenge concerns that undocumented immigrants are financially burdening the health care system.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: AbstractDreamz
The only reason that illegals are allowed to stay in the States in because they are likely future Democrat voters. If Democrats started supporting the removal of these criminals, then that would anger the families and hurt their popularity. It literally is as simple as that.
The solution is just as simple, but we have politicians with no balls or gravitas who care more about money and power than they do about doing the right thing.
if republicans on ATS would start researching the actual websites that this crap is taken from, and comparing them to actual government data, they might not jump on the bandwagon so fast.....
originally posted by: Daedal
a reply to: Night Star
The government doesn't give a damn about anything, they literally don't care what you or I think. Let's not just hunt down one group, if your here and contributing or are trying to make a living for your family give them legal status.
And if you still want a witch hunt, round up everyone else who are fugitives, undocumented felony fugitives and citizens alike.
Let's not just hunt down one group, if your here and contributing or are trying to make a living for your family give them legal status.
What's wrong with amnesty?
This is a side affect of bad economics, big banks and war. it isn't this person or him or her or you or I, trying to make a buck to live. We didn't do this to each other, although that would be the narrative sometimes.
How long will this continue to get worse before the problems are solved?
originally posted by: MoreBeer
Illegals or future Hillary supporters as I like to call them.
Until they learn that the Democrats hate their dear religion that is.