Yet another classic MK Ultra Scenario

a reply to: EA006

I think he had a point in his speech but no he is not coming for your guns.
Has he taken yours away yet? No.

originally posted by: EA006

originally posted by: illusion987
This mass shooting in Charleston, SC that took 9 lives, was not some random shooter. This was a plan by the government not unlike past MK Ultra experiments to try and rid Americans of their guns while maintaining the ever burning race war flame.

They kill two birds with one stone on this one...

Obama's just appeared on the news here, spouting "more deaths - because its too easy to get a gun" and "too many communities have been damaged"




They're coming for your guns this time.....

Think about it...

Before they start conficating guns; wouldn't you think they would stop manufacturing guns and ammo?
Shooting sports, hunting and sales of guns is a multi billion dollar industry. Do you really think they want to destroy that?

I don't...

I'm all for regulating gun sales to violent felons, nut cases, drunks and spousal abusers and others that can't take responsibility for their own lives.

originally posted by: EA006
They're coming for your guns this time.....

Uh-huh. Just likeel they were last time. And the time before. And the time before that. And...well, you get the picture.

In my opinion, this was the lone act of a lone disturbed person.

I do find it strange and more shocking, that he decided to sit with his victims for an hour before committing his crime.

The longer you spend with others the more you can 'relate' or 'identify' with them, learning their names, hearing their prayers, hearing their stories, finding out about their fears, insecurities, sad times, happy times, about their families and friends etc...

In the same way that a kidnapper or guard shouldn't interact more than necessary with their prisoner/hostage as this makes it harder to punish or kill them, this guy didn't just burst in and start shooting nameless strangers, he took the time to sit with these people and get to know them, then killed them.

That takes a special kind of coldness.

Maybe he planned it that way, or it took him an hour to build himself up to committing his crime, only he knows.

Whatever the reason, this person obviously has mental health issues as well as being a dangerous and homicidal psychopath, (I've no evidence of this being the case, I'm not a psychiatrist either, but like all of us I'm free to speculate).

I can understand why some think that an Mk-ultra type scenario may have taken place, but if I were the 'programmer' for such an event or any kind of MK-ultra type assassination plot, I'd have instructed the subject to turn the gun on himself after he had completed his task. Your target is dead, your programmed assassin is dead, a neat and tidy murder suicide.

If you program or brainwash a person to kill another person(s) and you don't want to become exposed, that would be the logical way to go, no?

Condolences to the friends and family of the victims of this terrible crime.

Gnobody

Sure it could be MK Ultra and I could also win a billion dollars today. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it is probable.

Why is it not possible that a racist person did a racist thing and committed a violent , horrible , cowardly crime?

As for coming for your guns, for how many decades have gun folks been crying about that and yet it never happens. Each alleged False Flag to bring about the removal of guns from the citizens and still that hasn't happened.

This thread is a classic example of what is wrong with America. You have a glaring problem with race, men who fought for slavery are considered heroes by many, but no no, this happened because mind control. This shooting wasn't the action of one man, but of a collection of people who believe they are superior because they are white. The flag of slavery flies over a state capitol and this shooting happened because of mind control? It is hard to have hope some days.

a reply to: kimar

Agree to a certain extent but....

Don't you think systemic racism or dysfunctional subcultures can be a form of mind control? Additionally, messed up people on the fringes are ripe for influence and he is clearly a nut.

Personally, I think it's racially motivated terrorism carried out by a psycho but that doesn't mean he wasn't influenced to do it by someone or even his family or group association. Much like Jihadists.

'I KNOW this is MKultra'

'No, I don't have evidence, it's almost impossible to get evidence for these things. But look at how similar this guy's picture is to others who I KNOW were MKultra but also can't realllly prove it.'

'If you believe it wasn't, you are asleep/a shill."


Some Conspiracy theorists these days sound like they're spouting from scriptures, ffs. Of course there's nothing wrong with tossing theories out; this is ATS! But when a theory is met with evidence in the contrary, people fall back on smugness and buzzwords/phrases. "Pfft, and where did you hear this, the MSM??" etc etc.

Why not do some research and try to make an actual credible argument?


I, for one, think this was definitely the act of a racist lunatic.

a reply to: WizardVanWizard

You get right on outta here with your logic and rational thought!

Shoo! Git!

originally posted by: kosmicjack


Personally, I think it's racially motivated terrorism carried out by a psycho but that doesn't mean he wasn't influenced to do it by someone or even his family or group association. Much like Jihadists.

That's what I think as well. Precisely why his family background is so important in determining his motivation.

Why no information on his people? imo there are more guilty parties involved than just Dylann. And add to the fact that a politician was murdered....hummmm!

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: illusion987
I just wrote about my absolute disgust at those who were so bloody selfish as to use this event as a reason to further their agenda.
That was in another thread, but I repeat it here. Some people have no shame.

Are you talking about the ones pushing their "They're coming for your guns" nonsense?

There is just one thing that stands out to me. Not stands out as in I believe he was mind controlled. It's just odd.

A "friend" of his was reported to say he had been planning this attack for 6 months and was going to commit suicide afterwards. Why, if you were intent on suicide, would you peacefully go with the arresting officers? Why not commit suicide right away, or suicide by cop if you chickened out a bit?

originally posted by: Excallibacca
There is just one thing that stands out to me. Not stands out as in I believe he was mind controlled. It's just odd.

A "friend" of his was reported to say he had been planning this attack for 6 months and was going to commit suicide afterwards. Why, if you were intent on suicide, would you peacefully go with the arresting officers? Why not commit suicide right away, or suicide by cop if you chickened out a bit?

Probably because real life isn't a movie plot that doesn't deviate from what the story line is.

I had a friend that talked about getting a tattoo his whole life, he did the design, booked the appointment and when he went to get it he got cold feet and left.

People aren't robots. Maybe the cowardly, idiot criminal driving around after murdering 9 people decided he didn't want to die at that moment and changed his mind.

a reply to: DJW001
I thought that was clear, yes. That is precisely what I was talking about. It shames me as a human being.

The dogmatic conspiracy addicts see MK Ultra in every incident. They are the same as religious dogmatists; they are narrow minded and see things one-dimensionally, such as an Alex Jones.

They diminish the reality of the real conspiracies (911, JFK and others) by making it ridiculous therefore people will shun the real conspiracies…it serves to hide the truth behind those that unintentially or intentiaonlly make mockery of the very idea.

Alex Jones is the perfect example: he goes on national TV and makes a dam fool of himself and thereby diminishing any real validity behind the genuine conspiracies

Pretty slick work

In this case the only evidence that this is a black op so far is the guys zombie-like demeanor, not any real evidence though of anything substantial has turned up other than the usual obsessive’s ramblings such as Alex Jones’ site.


To understand the serious idea of this being an MKultra operation it has to be viewed as a part of an ongoing operation to psychologically manipulate the American people. In that sense it should be looked at.

But we'll never likely get such evidence.

Here is that proof you requested if you still needed proof that this in a planned event by tptb to perpetuate race wars and to restrict guns.

www.bbc.com...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I wonder if he was on the anti depressant drugs, that all the others that did the heinous acts were taking. Adolescents with guns are dicey, as most of them are troubled anyway.