Did the Apollo 13 crew get help from beyond Earth?

i hope they did. our earthly tech was primitive, dubious and untested (in actua) for the most part. but hey, yay! we went to the moon...

a reply to: Aliensun

i please indicate which pic you reffer too [ NASA number ] and the area of the image that its in - because to be honest - i cannot see anything significant

please use chess board grid to indicate position on himage - ie 8 sqhares A~H for x-axis [ horizontal ] and 1~8 for Y-axis [ vertical ]

thanks

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: onebigmonkey

I was away for several hours and astounded to see that no one has apparently looked at the object that I have pointed out in the first image that is of a long, cylindrical object with a domed end with a light in the center of it? (We can blame phones for that, I suppose.)

I would concur with my simian friend: you perhaps need to be specific about what it is to which you are referring.

I can see only two solid objects in the photos: The departing service module and the moon.

The vague object that the OP video refers to looks like a reflection in the CM glass - probably of the camera.

I believe that the Apollo 13 mission had help from Aliens. I always thought so from watching the Ron Howard movie. I saw a documentary entitled "The Real Apollo 13" on the History Channel. It showed the explosion in a rough cut of film. The Space consultants stated that Lovell and crew survived a 50/50 chance that the explosion blew out towards space and not towards inside the capsule. How could the the inside survive the blast as the exterior blew open? There had to be some form of manipulation of the explosion to be done that way. Even the astronauts thought they were goners.

a reply to: RossWellOldMexico

How did the aliens stop the blast from blowing inwards?

a reply to: Chadwickus

I don't know. Maybe there was manipulation of the physics of the explosion by an Alien tractor beam? Watch the doc I stated. It shows the explosion. Either there was luck or Alien aid that helped the Apollo 13 crew. I'm amazed the the Astronauts survived the crisis.

originally posted by: RossWellOldMexico
I believe that the Apollo 13 mission had help from Aliens. I always thought so from watching the Ron Howard movie. I saw a documentary entitled "The Real Apollo 13" on the History Channel. It showed the explosion in a rough cut of film.

Sadly, no camera captured the moment of the explosion. Ron Howard's movie contains a lot of inaccuracies and over-dramatisations of events, as the astronauts themselves will tell you. Good movie, but you can't base your opinion on it.

The Space consultants stated that Lovell and crew survived a 50/50 chance that the explosion blew out towards space and not towards inside the capsule. How could the the inside survive the blast as the exterior blew open?

The 'inside' didn't survive the blast - it caused a lot of damage, hence the problem! The explosion followed the path of least resistance - blowing off the exterior panel is easier than going inwards. Also bear in mind that the SM and CM are separate craft, joined only by pipes and wires. There is no access from one to the other.

There had to be some form of manipulation of the explosion to be done that way. Even the astronauts thought they were goners.

That's not true. Jim Lovell has stated, and I have heard Fred Haise say in person, that they were not in fear of their lives, although they appreciated the severity of the problem.

It could have been much worse. but it wasn't. The fact that it wasn't is down to a combination of good fortune and people knowing the spacecraft and associated systems inside out, not alien intervention.

a reply to: RossWellOldMexico

because the oxygen tanks were OUTSIDE the pressure skin of the CM module [ where the crew were ] .

the oxygen tank that suffered failure was part of the SM [ service module ] an unmanned section of the craft

the apollo 13 craft [ at the time of the incident ] was in 3 connected sections :

command module - that held the 3 crew [ the heat sheild of the CM was between also the crew and the SM ]

service module - that held the main rocket motor for travel to and from lunar orbit pluss oxygen , batteries , fuel water etc etc etc etc

lunar module - that was supposed to separate in lunar orbit - land with 2 crew and partially rejoin the CM before being jettisoned .

so " in or out " is a false question - there was no crew space in the SM

at the time of the incident all crew were in the CM - and suffered no injuries or loss of CM hull inegrity

the LM was used to assist the survival of the crew as it had supplies and independant functional equipment that was unaffected by the oxygen tank failure

moral of this tail - dont rely on films for facts .

PS - for further info - the wikkipedia articles on the CM // SM // LM are of sufficient quality to anser most addition questions you might have

a reply to: onebigmonkey

I mentioned the wrong image. In the OP article from Iquisitr click on the second link of "here" to bring up the image. That image is 8529 jpg 3900x3900. My computer brings it up with my icon changed to a "plus" sign.

In the extreme upper right-hand corner is a smug. Move your "+" icon up to it, click on it and that section of the image enlarges several times. As I have said, plainly visible is a very long and enormous tubular object with a domed end with a light in the center of it. To the side is a smaller object.

a reply to: Aliensun

OK, now I see what you mean.

I've enhanced the area in question:



Light reflection I would guess, not aliens.

a reply to: onebigmonkey

Humm. That looks very much like the coma and nucleus of a comet.
given that the exact time is known, that should be easy to prove or disprove.

a reply to: Aliensun

With a bit of research, I find that object is probably Comet Bennett which the crew was engaged in observing at one point as they prepared to come down.

Therefore, my part of this discussion is closed.

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Aliensun



With a bit of research, I find that object is probably Comet Bennett which the crew was engaged in observing at one point as they prepared to come down.



Therefore, my part of this discussion is closed.

Care to describe this research, please? I never heard of the Apollo-13 crew observing the comet Bennett, please enlighten me.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Aliensun



With a bit of research, I find that object is probably Comet Bennett which the crew was engaged in observing at one point as they prepared to come down.



Therefore, my part of this discussion is closed.

Care to describe this research, please? I never heard of the Apollo-13 crew observing the comet Bennett, please enlighten me.

Photography of Comet Bennett. 031:50 03:03 13 Apr 1970 Unsuccessful passive thermal control attempt. 032:21:49 03:34:49 13 Apr 1970 Crew turned on fans in oxygen tank #2 (routine procedure). 046:40:02 17:15 13 Apr 1970 Cryogenic oxygen tank #2 quantity gauge indicated "off-scale high," of over 100% (probably due to short circuit). First indication of a problem. 046:40:05 17:18:05 13 Apr 1970 Cryogenic oxygen tank #2 quantity probe short circuited. 046:40:08 17:21:08 13 Apr 1970 Oxygen tank #2 fans turned on again with no apparent adverse affects. Quantity gauge continued to read "off-scale high." 047:54:50 19:03:50 13 Apr 1970 Oxygen tank #2 fans turned on again with no apparent adverse affects. Quantity gauge continued to read "off-scale high." 051:07:44 22:57:44 13 Apr 1970 CDR and LMP cleared to enter the LM to commence inflight inspection. 053:27 00:40 14 Apr 1970 LMP entered LM. 054:20 01:33 14 Apr 1970 CDR entered LM. 054:25 01:38 14 Apr 1970 LM system checks. 054:40 01:53 14 Apr 1970 TV transmission started. 055:14 02:27 14 Apr 1970 CDR and LMP entered LM. 055:30 02:43 14 Apr 1970 TV transmission ended. 055:46:30 02:59:30 14 Apr 1970 Tunnel hatch closed. 055:50 03:03 14 Apr 1970 Master caution and warning triggered by low hydrogen pressure in tank #1. Alarm turned off after 4 seconds. 055:52:31 03:05:31 14 Apr 1970 CAPCOM (Jack Lousma): "13, we've got one more item for you, when you get a chance. We'd like you to stir up your cryo tanks. In addition, I have shaft and trunnion..." 055:52:58 03:05:58 14 Apr 1970 CMP (Swigert): "Okay." 055:53:06 03:06:06 14 Apr 1970 CAPCOM: "...for looking at the Comet Bennett, if you need it." 055:53:07 03:06:07 14 Apr 1970 CMP: "Okay. Stand by." 055:53:12 03:06:12 14 Apr 1970 Oxygen tank #1 fans on. 055:53:18 03:06:18 14 Apr 1970

history.nasa.gov...

a reply to: JimOberg

It was planned, and discussed several times prior to the accident. In fact the last instruction to stir the tank mentions it:

55:52:58 - CapCom (Jack Lousma): "13, we've got one more item for you, when you get a chance. We'd like you to stir up the cryo tanks. In addition, I have shaft and trunnion .....

55:53:06 - Swigert: "Okay."

55:53:07 - CapCom: ".... for looking at Comet Bennett, if you need it."

However as the comet was a naked eye object at this point, I do not believe that this object is it. The image I provided has been sharpened and adjusted to show the 'object' more clearly.

cometography.com...

E2A:

Telescopically exhibited extraordinary spiraling jets of bright material being ejected from the nucleus. During the second week of April, first to second magnitude with two tails, the longest spanning over 20 degrees

www.icq.eps.harvard.edu...

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: Aliensun

OK, now I see what you mean.

I've enhanced the area in question:

Light reflection I would guess, not aliens.

Comet Bennett in 1970:

a reply to: draknoir2

And here is the unenhanced original view:



and of course if it is a comet in the Apollo image, it should appear in the other pictures taken at the same time, which it doesn't.

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: draknoir2

And here is the unenhanced original view:

and of course if it is a comet in the Apollo image, it should appear in the other pictures taken at the same time, which it doesn't.

Looks too straight as well. The tail had a bit of a flare to it... at times even a split.

Apollo 13 did have one attempt at photographing the comet at GET 32:00, but they reported that they couldn't see anything through the sextant thanks to glare from the sun, and it was abandoned with the intention of trying again after TEI (in other words on the way back after what was still going on as a lunar landing mission).

The fact that the view was washed out by the sun should tell you which direction the comet was in relation to Apollo 13, compared with the near full moon in the photograph.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Aliensun



With a bit of research, I find that object is probably Comet Bennett which the crew was engaged in observing at one point as they prepared to come down.



Therefore, my part of this discussion is closed.

Care to describe this research, please? I never heard of the Apollo-13 crew observing the comet Bennett, please enlighten me.

As you constantly tell us Oberg, do your own research. I'll wagersure you have the materials at hand and probably knew the answer but delayed providing the answer just to draw the comments on.