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originally posted by: Seamrog
If you have to split hairs to dance around your own words.....
I guess a church is no longer a religious institution with it is convenient, and a university is not a university, it is a religious institution when it is convenient.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
There is no valid reason for anyone to be against marriage equality aside from religious reasons.
Give me one good reason why gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry. And that reason can't be based on religious beliefs.
Go.
But the Republican governor, who is courting Christian conservatives for a likely presidential bid, quickly fought back against the defeat, seeking to enact the bill’s provisions without legislative support.
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Stephen Perry, a vocal critic of the bill who heads up the New Orleans Convention and Visitors Bureau, dismissed Jindal’s order as “largely a political statement” that “will have very little practical impact.”
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“No Executive Order of a governor may create substantive law, even in an emergency situation,” he said in a statement.
originally posted by: stolencar18
originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
If a gay man opened a bar and only wanted to serve other gay men guess what.......This is real freedom. And let me make myself clear private property is your choice public is just that public and serves everyone equally.
This. Let's cut the crap on discrimination. Nobody complains if a black man chooses not to serve a white man, or if a gay couple wanted to choose not to provide a service for an enthusiastic Christian couple, or even if Hooters restaurant chooses not to hire girls that don't have...er...hooters. Let's not even talk about the strip clubs. Should they hire any girl (heck, why stop at women) that walks in?
The only reason this is an issue is because it's got a Christian background. Everyone flips their # (even though it doesn't affect them) when a Christian wants to do Christian things. If my above examples are all acceptable - and we know they are - then a Christian business choosing not to serve a certain demographic is equally acceptable (or, conversely, they're all equally unacceptable, and I expect some people start some threads about Hooters and black on white discrimination).
originally posted by: SubTruth
This is exactly why we should follow the constitution again. If you are a gay Black man and open a bar and only want to serve other gay Black men.......You already have the right according to the constitution.
New Orleans Mayor Counters Jindal's Order With One of Acceptance for All Mayor Mitch Landrieu says his famously tolerant city will continue to welcome everyone, including LGBT people, despite Gov. Bobby Jindal's antigay 'conscience protection' order. BY TRUDY RINGMAY
New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu wants the world to know that despite Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s antigay “conscience protection” order, the good times are still rolling for LGBT people and everyone else in the Big Easy.
Thursday, two days after Jindal issued an executive order that essentially put the state’s Marriage and Conscience Act into effect after legislators failed to pass it, Landrieu issued an executive order of his own, saying that New Orleans will not tolerate discrimination, reports New Orleans newspaper The Times-Picayune.
“The purpose of this Executive Order is to confirm for the residents of the City of New Orleans, its businesses and visitors that religious beliefs are protected from unjustified governmental burden, but that there is no tolerance in the City of New Orleans for discrimination on the basis of race, creed, national origin or ancestry, color, religion, gender or sex, sexual orientation, gender identification, marital or domestic partner status, age, physical condition or disability,” the order reads in part.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: dawnstar
It's more a declaration than anything concrete, really. Just a mayor standing up for his people.
originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
Actually he's standing up for the money gay people bring to New Orleans.
am completely in favor of marriage equality. What I don't get is forcing those that are not in favor due to religious beliefs, being forced to marry same sex couples. I don't really get why that same sex couple would even want to be united together by a church or priest who doesn't actually support it....baffles me.
I don't think there should be a law that says they can't get married, but I don't think forcing a church to marry them is the right way to go about getting it done
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
Actually he's standing up for the money gay people bring to New Orleans.
Which helps the people of the city. There'd be no need to bring in money if not for the people who benefit from it. But Mitch Landrieu is a Democrat, so likely is much more accepting of LGBT folks than Jindal.