Bernie Sanders Raises $1.5 Million on First Day of Campaign

a reply to: bigrex

Where about's in Europe are you? The people in France, Italy, Spain and Germany seemed OK. Now I will say Moldova wasn't quite the same...we had to walk every morning for water from a kiosk.

a reply to: bigrex

If you took the time to find out what his policies are and what he's about instead of just freaking out over the label "Socialist" like you've been programed to do you'd realize that he would help the working class and poor. The one's who need to worry would be the Super Rich and the Corporate Giants.

It's amazing how ingrained and Pavlovian some words are for people. As if Conservatives are actually Conservative or Liberals really Liberal. Are Republicans truly representatives of a Republic and Democrats truly an example of Democratic Ideals??? These labels mean nothing and represent nothing in any real sense. They are no different than the names of sports teams. The Bears aren't really bears and the Jets aren't really Jets in case you haven't noticed. Neither are Democrats, Republicans, Liberals or Conservatives. Those are just self chosen labels and nothing more.

Do some research about Bernie before you decide to dismiss him. He might surprise you.

When someone calls Bernie a Socialist, he always corrects them. He calls himself a Democratic Socialist. Basically he wants to start using our tax dollars in support of American citizens instead of blowing it all on endless wars and bank giveaways.

Please learn more about his policies before you run screaming because of one word.

I like this guy a lot. I don't think he has a chance in Hell, but I'll kick in a few bucks for him.

a reply to: links234

a reply to: links234

Matt Taibbi on Sanders:

But Bernie Sanders is not Bukharin or Trotsky. His concept of "Democratic Socialism" as I've come to understand it over the years is that an elected government should occasionally step in and offer an objection or two toward our progress to undisguised oligarchy. Or, as in the case of not giving tax breaks to companies who move factories overseas, our government should at least not finance the disappearance of the middle class.

Maybe that does qualify as radical and unserious politics in our day and age. If that's the case, we should at least admit how much trouble we're in.

Congratulations, Bernie. Good luck and give 'em hell.

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Change? Err... maybe now?

originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: DJMSN

Well I know very little about him but he claims to be a Socialist. I don't want the same ole thing but I don't want a Socialist either.

Kind of unfair to write the guy off so quickly without knowing anything about him, isn't it?

Bernie Sanders at ontheissues.org

Bernie Sanders at votesmart.org

Plenty of information there on any number of topics.

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
It doesn't matter who runs does it? You'll appear to be given a choice of two puppets already selected by the real rulers of this world. You have no choice, it's all a sham. Why do you participate in this farce? I wish people would wake up and see this scam for what it really is.

"The only way we beat the billionaire class is when millions of people organize and say enough is enough."
- Bernie Sanders

He is for higher taxes and higher government spending, for benefits for illegal immigrants, he is for minors being transported across state lines for medical procedures without parental notification, etc. Sounds like another big government Marxist to me.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: links234

Sanders is going to get my vote in the primaries.

He's against the Patriot Act.

That's the only issue I'm really concerned with.

The Patriot Act has brought us DHS, TSA, NDAA.

Sanders says he'll repeal the act.

QED.

No he won't. He says a big game but, like Obama, once he discovers he can use it on people he doesn't like--such as you or I, he will keep it.

Good job bernie! Now, since he is a self described socialist, will he be spreading this money evenly amongst all of the candidates? No? Huh....

a reply to: NavyDoc

Doc, dunno what else I can do.

I can only vote for the people that "say" they'll repeal it.

I certainly won't vote for the folks that say they'll keep it!

a reply to: Dfairlite

Good question, even if you meant it as rhetorical...the answer is that Bernie would prefer that federal elections be publicly funded with no one candidate having more or less money than any other, which, in turn, would allow all candidates an equal chance at being elected based not on their donor base, but on their qualifications and the will of the people.

So the short answer is, yes, he would spread that $1.5 million if he could.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: bigrex

If you took the time to find out what his policies are and what he's about instead of just freaking out over the label "Socialist" like you've been programed to do you'd realize that he would help the working class and poor. The one's who need to worry would be the Super Rich and the Corporate Giants.

It's amazing how ingrained and Pavlovian some words are for people. As if Conservatives are actually Conservative or Liberals really Liberal. Are Republicans truly representatives of a Republic and Democrats truly an example of Democratic Ideals??? These labels mean nothing and represent nothing in any real sense. They are no different than the names of sports teams. The Bears aren't really bears and the Jets aren't really Jets in case you haven't noticed. Neither are Democrats, Republicans, Liberals or Conservatives. Those are just self chosen labels and nothing more.

Do some research about Bernie before you decide to dismiss him. He might surprise you.

Anyone who would vote for Ron Paul and then turn around and vote the polar opposite (a socialist) is a flaming mixed up cookie. Socialists are seen right along with murderers, bankers, and bank robbers here in America. Socialism is like a gateway drug to Communism and mass poverity like in the good ol' iron curtain,..comrad. Millions dead and it's the perfect social engineering tool for any wanna be tyrant. Lenin, Mao, Stalin, you name it. And don't give me that Finnish socialism stuff, they have their problems too. -Like everybody getting a college education, people who don't belong in college pick easy subjects that they can graduate in but then they can't find a job. Too few in Finland know how to build a house so there are waiting lines just for regular construction.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: bigrex

Where about's in Europe are you? The people in France, Italy, Spain and Germany seemed OK. Now I will say Moldova wasn't quite the same...we had to walk every morning for water from a kiosk.

I was in France, many are poor due to high taxes, but it is that way all over Europe, I hear taxes are diabolically high in Britain. All the people can afford are little flats that would cost a lot less in the US, except in the biggest of U.S. cities.

originally posted by: bigrex
I was in France, many are poor due to high taxes, but it is that way all over Europe...

This is off-topic but, could you define 'poor' for me? I'm of the understanding that most of Western and Northern Europe have fairly high standards of living, meaning many are well educated and few go without a meal on a regular basis. I've spent some time in Germany and my experience didn't tell me the people there were 'poor.'

Bernie is the man. He is the only guy telling you exactly what his plans are. Don't believe him then look up his records and his votes. There is nothing anyone can say to take away from this man and his ideas could actually pull America out of the slump it is in, Lord knows the way we been going ain't working out to well.

OH HELL YEAH! Bernie Sanders, he's our man, if he can't do it, NO ONE CAN.
Thanks for the thread. I've been thinking of starting one and was just too lazy/unmotivated/tired.......

S/F, frealz.


and Ted Cruz sucks.
Just sayin'.

a reply to: theplu

It was an amendment proposed by Bernie Sanders that got the Fed Audited.

Sanders/Warren FOR THE WIN!!!!

yay.
I can't even express how delighted I am with this.

a reply to: theplu

He calls himself a Democratic Socialist. Basically he wants to start using our tax dollars in support of American citizens instead of blowing it all on endless wars and bank giveaways.

Does this count as a post? I am so excited to see the support for this man on ATS!!!

a reply to: bigrex

Socialists are seen right along with murderers, bankers, and bank robbers here in America.

And that is the most ignorant, unsophisticated, blind, poorly educated, and unaware thing about this stupid-ass country.

a reply to: bigrex

I was in France, many are poor due to high taxes, but it is that way all over Europe, I hear taxes are diabolically high in Britain. All the people can afford are little flats that would cost a lot less in the US, except in the biggest of U.S. cities.

Neocon-austerity ruins Europe, to be precise. Germany is just less affected yet, for different reasons. But not all taxes run straight into bank-accounts like profits do usually. Many are just poor due to the Brave New Oligarchy. It took the ECB ages to finally come up with negative interest rates, if you catch my drift.
There were riots in France recently and we will see more to come. But taxes are just part of a bigger problem:

But public anger extends well beyond the new green tax, they warned, insisting that without a sea-change in the country’s economic prospects, especially for small businesses, France could expect more trouble.

"A progressive roll-call of bankruptcies and forced redundancy plans is having a marked effect, they wrote. “And as the bad mews mounts up, there is an atmosphere of pain and despondency. There is a lack of hope for the future, and this is fertile territory for a social explosion in France.”

www.france24.com...

Bernie 4 Präsi! We still need some change, don't we?

a reply to: links234

I've spent some time in Germany and my experience didn't tell me the people there were 'poor.'

Good for you! Now ckeck out our nice push forward in regards to child poverty.
Wundervolle Sache, das!
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Or try some basic facts and stop looking at "your people" only?
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Deny poverty much?