Colorado businessman blames 'stoned' workers for move to SC

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: olaru12


Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!

Quoted because it bears repeating.

Waow nelly, common sense would tell any individual to go au natural, no dope needed.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: Answer

and I have watched quite a few documentaries about the regrets musicians have because the were so hooked on drugs and all the great musicians that had so much more to give that died young.

Believe it our not you can be every bit as creative with out a crutch.

I run in a circle of artist, the majority are not high.

Personally I don't know any that are.

I am a bead artist, I make wearable art.

I appreciate your candid views on such a topic where those addicted will never admit the faults of their addiction. It takes courage and fortitude to go against the current trends and you deserve recognition for such contributions to ATS.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Pot and business don't mix.

Bill Gates, George Soros, Rush Limbaugh, Ted Turner, Seth MacFarlane, Andrew Sullivan, Hugh Hefner, and Steve Jobs would probably disagree, but what would they know.

Those are all some of the worst demonized personalities of ATS of all time. Way to make my point.

If your point is that you are simply following a different herd then yes I have made your point for you.

If your point is deflecting from the issue you can try. You said pot and business don't mix yet you can plainly see that is false otherwise those people wouldn't be billionaires or millionaires would they.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

This is a joke and this guy is full of it.
He says himself only 5 sculptors were quality or came in unimpaired.
OR
Meaning he didn't care if they were high if they were good sculptors.

Being high is very very unlikely to effect this work and anyone that believes that there arent people that don't smoke there is ignorant. He was moving anyeay and got his business and his 15 minutes in the news.
[snip]., the whole story is silly b.s..

a reply to: TinfoilTP

No one is addicted to pot.
That's more ignorance. Who are you Chris Christie?
There isnt anyone who smokes that couldnt quit tomorrow and wiyh no withdrawal or mental addiction.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

So anyone who supports pot us just a no good addict that can't admit they have a problem?

Wow...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

Colorado is experiencing a boom due to the MJ legalization.


Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!

Yeah, now there is an extreme lack of housing everywhere, causing rents to DOUBLE everywhere, and people can't find jobs.
The "boom" will be leaving more people homeless and jobless, and living on welfare. Property values are soaring and people can't afford to buy homes.

Legalization is backfiring in the sense it's raised the cost of living tremendously and hurting peoples' livelihood.

Again, I'm not against MJ, but it's causing a lot of problems for people who don't care one way or another about it.

a reply to: tinker9917

If stoners were a wealthy demographic albeit not "detail oriented" it might actually help employment.
For example think of all the extra AAA calls made by stranded motorists.
You live in Colorado so if your resentment is typical it sounds like its going to be a real problem.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Believe it our not you can be every bit as creative with out a crutch.

I run in a circle of artist, the majority are not high.

Weed was always involved,

and I'm an old hippie so I'm aware of the culture, I prayed and prayed to overcome it myself, that's been many years now since I am 65 now.

Unfortunately, you can go on tirades about your personal knowledge of drug abuse, how it ruined you. But no one here can give you a rebuttal based on their own personal knowledge, attesting how their successful artistry is enhanced with THC, or how it aids their medical needs, because that would be against the T&Cs!

originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: tinker9917

If stoners were a wealthy demographic albeit not "detail oriented" it might actually help employment.
For example think of all the extra AAA calls made by stranded motorists.
You live in Colorado so if your resentment is typical it sounds like its going to be a real problem.

It's not resentment, It's a fact. It's hurting people's finances big time. Do YOU live in Colorado? Has YOUR housing cost DOUBLED??

I can't even touch the stuff (I work in a high risk environment and if it showed up on a "test" that is done periodically, I wouldn't have a job. ) If it weren't for that fact, I'd definitely join in the fun. But, only if I weren't going to be working for 10 hours or more. Just like alcohol.

Am I glad it's company policy? YES. High risk environment that could hurt many people if some dumbell employee made a mistake at their job.

This includes many jobs, such as running heavy machinery, driving a semi-truck, construction. Practically any job I can think of, a dumbell mistake can be made. You want your doctor or nurse to come to work high while you're in the emergency room ? How about your dentist? The restaurant cook who puts something in the food that will make you sick or kill you?


If people want to do it at home on their own time, just like drinking alcohol, that's great. But just like alcohol, being under the influence at work should NOT BE ALLOWED.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

If Potheads go to Colorado to get their fix, what do you call people who frequent Starbucks?

Caffeine is a drug too, those who frequent starbucks and pay way too much for a cup of coffee with some flAIR are very much addicts too.

I can assure you my aim is much straighter with cannabis than it is with caffeine.

Why not demonize caffeine too?

a reply to: tinker9917

Where are you getting the info from about what the legalization has done?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: tinker9917

Where are you getting the info from about what the legalization has done?

Locally -personal experience and friends' experiences , family in Denver, family in the mountains, Denver news articles (about rent increases and population growth), and from real estate agent trying to sell the house that I rent.

There's lack of housing, lack of jobs everywhere.

I live in S.C. and wow is he going to be disappointed when he sees everyone smokes marijuana here too. People are going to smoke it legal or not, more people do not smoke it because it became legal in their state, they just don't have to hide it. Why is this news anyway, who cares what some guy thinks, he is obviously an idiot who doesn't like to see people be happy. One complaint about marijuana I heard recently is that You can be working beside someone that is high on marijuana and not even know it.

a reply to: tinker9917
The doctors and nurses are high on something worse called pain killers, I work a dangerous job mainly on roofs, I smoke everyday, the only dumb bells are the naturally stupid people I have to deal with and since when do restaurant workers put things in the food that kill people because they were high ? that's idiotic, almost every restaurant worker that works in the kitchen smokes, would be hard to find some who dont.

a reply to: tinker9917

There's lack of housing, lack of jobs everywhere.

How does the legalization of weed lead to lack of housing and lack of jobs?

It actually created jobs with a whole new industry being opened up and people needing to service said industry.

And are you saying that there is a lack of housing cause more people are moving there?
If so, how is that a negative?

As far a the cost of housing going up, that is the nature of the beast of our system, but it is a benefit to said system.

That would also only affect new residents moving in.
Well unless you didn't sign a contract on your place of residence which is on you.

originally posted by: tinker9917

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: tinker9917

Where are you getting the info from about what the legalization has done?

Locally -personal experience and friends' experiences , family in Denver, family in the mountains, Denver news articles (about rent increases and population growth), and from real estate agent trying to sell the house that I rent.

There's lack of housing, lack of jobs everywhere.

This is another reason it should be legalized in more states.

Colorado will see a big boom for awhile and it will take the economy/infrastructure awhile to catch up.

Austin, Texas has been growing like crazy for years due to the culture/music/laid-back nature/etc. and the city is having the same problems you're describing.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: tinker9917

There's lack of housing, lack of jobs everywhere.

How does the legalization of weed lead to lack of housing and lack of jobs?

It actually created jobs with a whole new industry being opened up and people needing to service said industry and if it is increasing the housing market then that is a great thing.

And are you saying that there is a lack of housing cause more people are moving there?
If so, how is that a negative?

As far a the cost of housing going up, that is the nature of the beast of our system, but it is a benefit to said system.

That would also only affect new residence moving in.
Well unless you didn't sign a contract on your place of residence which is on you.

Exactly... all those problems are temporary.

The bigger cities will eventually catch-up but it'll be a little hectic for awhile with a big influx of new residents.

I have been reading the posts and find many who want the business owner to show some evidence of his statements. They feel hurt that someone would say that workers who arrive impaired by marijuana are somehow less capable than those who are not. What a surprise that those who are gassed aren't really seeing straight and can't make rational judgments. There are even some testimonials about how some posters think people work better and are more creative while indulging, a self-serving comment if I ever heard one. We also have the Hemp Society telling us how we can make all sorts of useful things from hemp and why it is the best plant ever for fabric and stuff and that hemp doesn't really have much THC. What they don't mention is that it is tough to tell the difference when growing the other brand in with the hemp. I wonder what their subtle plan is.
MJ may be worse than alcohol simply because the impairment may be less obvious to the casual observer. Many jobs are too dangerous to have potheads and boozers around. It is bad enough if they clog the machinery with their own carcasses but they shouldn't have the opportunity to clog the machinery with others. In a fun event in Southeast Asia almost 50 years ago, dopers were assigned the perimeter at night because they just couldn't not light up and attract unwanted attention. After a few dolts were culled, everyone else figured out that smoking should be reserved for base camp and when not on the duty roster.
We have already seen some down side to the grand experiment. Electricity demand has risen 3% because of grow lights. The Feds still say that it is a crime to distribute MJ and so banks can't hold the money. Electric bills of several hundred thousand dollars are paid with cash as are all the other supply bills. Holdups should soon be on the rise with all that cash but maybe they'll work this out.
More unintended consequences will likely become apparent as time goes on. The good news is that supercritical CO2 extraction of THC from low grade and waste stems and leaves is on the rise and, much like a fortified wine, is added back to the expensive stuff. Better things for better living through chemistry.

a reply to: pteridine

What they don't mention is that it is tough to tell the difference when growing the other brand in with the hemp. I wonder what their subtle plan is.

It is actually pretty easy, you get hemp from male plants.
They are also rather easy to tell apart, especially once they have grown.

If 3% increase in electricity and banks won't take your money is the worst you can come up with, pretty sure that is not a failed experiment.

MJ may be worse than alcohol simply because the impairment may be less obvious to the casual observer

Just no...