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originally posted by: ketsuko
Where did we see Jesus sinning in order not to appear judgmental? We didn't, not once, not ever. So WWJD? He wouldn't celebrate something that by His own teachings cannot exist in the eyes of God.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Rocker2013
This is a very good point, and it comes right back around to the idea that those who have sinned may not judge others, and of course, according to the Bible, though Jesus died for our sins, we are none the less sinners all the same, and have no business inserting our attitudes into other peoples lives without invitation or permission.
My attitude to all this is, that if people who profess to Christian beliefs spent more time being decent to all people, regardless of their particular gender, sexuality, religious convictions, politics, attitude toward birth control, and so on and so forth, then they would spend more time actually BEING Christian, than they tend to at the moment.
Where did we see Jesus sinning in order not to appear judgmental? We didn't, not once, not ever.
originally posted by: LiberLegit
Leave religion out of it for a second: if I own a business I can refuse service to whoever I want.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
Baking a cake or serving pizza, or what have you, for a gay wedding does not represent approval,
originally posted by: LiberLegit
a reply to: SkepticOverlord
The person in the video put up a picture of a stereotypical redneck, and switched his accent to a southern hick when he began describing a Christian who chooses not to cater a homosexual wedding. It's derogatory, condescending, and most importantly uninformative. It's the mindless religion-bashing that's all over the internet, and doesn't really have a place when discussing the topic. It also fails to foster original thought. Call it whatever you want, the first shots were fired by the video - I will respond how I see fit. I just know ATS is better than something so typical.
I don't care if you're the biggest fairy gay man in the world if I don't want to serve you I won't.
I'm seriously never clicking these topics ever again, and the pandering picture of Gervais reveals this NLBS bull# stems from militant aggressive atheism. I don't care about religion, or your opinion on faggots getting married - just give me the facts and call it a day.
originally posted by: EverydayInVA
...but The LGBT community needs to quit trying to fight discrimination with discrimination. The way that they are going about their whole fight for equality is wrought with bad strategy, at some point there will be MAJOR PUSHBACK if they continue to trample other groups rights fighting for their own.
originally posted by: khnum
Im from Australia so Im not all that conversant with the law in the USA however like here I would imagine the Constitution and Federal law over-rides State law. I do know there are US anti discrimination and unfair dismissal laws at the Federal level and the gay mafia or such is probably going to go straight to the Supreme court to get any State decision over ridden my guess is that the Governor of Indiana is of the far religious right persausion and this is an exercise of pandering to his constuency rather than social justice.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TrueBrit
Ecept if you refuse to service a gay wedding, the scripture is pretty clear on that from both God and then from Christ himself -- man and woman.