AZ Senator wants to make church attendance mandatory

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It seems Ms Allen could use a course in the constitution and American history.

What I find even funnier is that she believes church attendance actually makes people better. Maybe she should look at the hard facts. States with the highest church attendance also are the most morally challenged according to the data.

The "Bible Belt", which has the most people attending church per capita, also have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, murder, divorce, obesity, and poverty.



Teen Pregnancy
Divorce and Murder

Yeah, America needs more of this "morality".

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Lol, 'cause going to church and gun control have soo much in common.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Well she did say church of your choice so I'll give her that but ya that is ridiculous.

I would bet it is your choice of state approved churches if something like that ever passed.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

So she is just another religious zealot like Isis or alqueda.

"You will practice religion or else!!!!"

Reminds if the AGW crowd.

"You will believe in AGW or else!!!!".

Bunch of wack jobs all over these days.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

But since that [mandatory church service] would never be allowed and we would not even be debating that...

While poorly executed, she was making a terrible analogy. A little bit of reading beyond the byline revels that.

Post Script
She was taking a long trip around a terrible literary device to justify her "yea" vote. She of course sprinkled a bit of holier than thou sauce while serving up her bowl of diminishing relativity. Oh and the title is ccompletely as ridiculous.

A forced religion is No religion at all, Im all for faith, but this is just Crazy

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Gots to watch what you say or at least how you say it even if you are being flippant.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

The "Bible Belt", which has the most people attending church per capita, also have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, murder, divorce, obesity, and poverty.

That by no means is a clear observation of this happening to the people actually attending church....Just another "statistic" for you non believers to use as "fact" when it means nothing!

Not saying I agree with forcing people to do anything, but your "facts" are misleading at best!

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

But..but...Why do Atheists care what the religious believe?

Why do those that believe in nothing feel the need to talk about others belief?


I have seen that parroted in many forms all over the internet. Now I can just link this thread.

originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Lol, 'cause going to church and gun control have soo much in common.

She was really saying the opposite. That they wouldn't have to be voting on a gun carry bill if more folks went to church. That they were better off voting for mandatory church but then said thats not going to happen. Just saying. Don't start shooting!

a reply to: Logarock

pew pew I only have BB guns, so you are relatively safe

“People prayed, people went to church,” she said, recalling her 1950s upbringing. “I remember on Sundays the stores were closed. The biggest thing is religion was kicked out of our public places, out of our schools.”

No crap. That was the point. All the places that removed religion are doing better by all remarks.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

But..but...Why do Atheists care what the religious believe?

Why do those that believe in nothing feel the need to talk about others belief?


I have seen that parroted in many forms all over the internet. Now I can just link this thread.

Perhaps it has something to do with how religious people keep trying to force their viewpoints and morality on everyone else, and wish to punish those who do not agree with them. Maybe if the religious people would simply STF, keep their beliefs and superstitions out of politics and other sections of the real world.

Oh, and the hypocrisy. Let's not forget that. If you are going to judge and condemn groups and individuals, be sure you don't have doggie poo on your own shoes first.

It is something religious people don't seem to get. No one would care even remotely about what you believe in or who you bend your knee to if you didn't try to enforce these same things on people who do not believe.

Your are welcome to your delusions or superstitions, but as soon as you try running my life, or others lives through legal, social, or political means, then prepare to be called out on it and exposed.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


"It's the soul that is corrupt and how we get back to a moral rebirth in this country, I don’t know, since we are slowly eroding religion at every opportunity that we have.”


Politics and morals are pretty much mutually exclusive imho.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I am not arguing with you.

But....

We really need a sarcasm emoticon.

I forget that not everyone remembers my stance on religion.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I am not arguing with you.

But....

We really need a sarcasm emoticon.

I forget that not everyone remembers my stance on religion.

Sorry dude, lol. Yeah, I agree. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate on the net, especially when dry and subtle. But yeah. Definitely need the emote.

Sounds like she was quoted out of context while talking about a ccw bill.
She later commented that her statement was flippant, meaning tongue in cheek.

LOL...all church successfully does is get people to hide what they think their peers at church find unacceptable in whatever jaded view they have on topics.

Sure there are some good ones out there, and I grew up going to church Sundays and Wednesdays, and I can say that I never met a single person that was by the book a christian from the second they left church until they were back in a few days.

A bunch of hypocrites and liars really. But hey...just ask for forgiveness each week and you're all good.....LOL!

Church propagates hate.....plain and simple. Dislike and feel bad for anyone that is not part of it is all that comes from it. Hence why they all feel the need to preach about it, at least the zealots that is.

Everyone going to church and practicing their morality. I wonder what this woman thinks of ISIS. They are a group of deeply religious, devout believers, who act daily according to their faith.

AH Ha..... the actual wording is: "Senator Allen would like to mandate church attendance"

but it seems she wants to try to re-instill the morals, etiquette, manners of a bygone 1950s era


the Social Mingling Mandate we might call her program
I recall the 1950s, duck-&-cover bells, fire escape drills, pledge of allegiance daily, copies of Lords Prayer close by the American flag in classrooms, libraries... just about every space where a group could gather


Sen Allen is chasing a pipedream... Mayberry RFD is long gone
best thing she can do is create her own home environment with her 'Mandate vision' of everyday life
( it may be somewhat reminescent of something like Pee-Wees' Playhouse...)