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originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: Eunuchorn
You have no sources.
How do you know it was Big Oil and not the hippies that lobbied for these lanes?
This really should be in Rants and not Skunkworks.
originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: Eunuchorn
You have no sources.
How do you know it was Big Oil and not the hippies that lobbied for these lanes?
This really should be in Rants and not Skunkworks.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Eunuchorn
Carpool lanes are well used where I live and I see people getting pulled over. If it was about big oil they would just have no carpool lane.
originally posted by: MasterOfTheDamned
a reply to: Eunuchorn
I would have to put this a different way.
Big Oil: more lanes on the freeway means traffic flows better and commuters spend less gasoline on their daily trip to work, you need to quit making freeways so wide.
Politician in Big Oil's pocket book: We have already put too much effort into this and can't simply stop without the general populous becoming enraged.
Big Oil: How about this then, take the left lane of the freeway and make it restricted to vehicles used for carpooling to "promote carpooling to save the environment", then, where possible, take the next lane over and use it for barricades to restrict access to the carpool lane so less people can use it, no one will ask questions about that.
Politician in Big Oil's pocket book: I LOVE YOU MAN!!! I will do this right now.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Eunuchorn
Carpool lanes are well used where I live and I see people getting pulled over. If it was about big oil they would just have no carpool lane.
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
That's not the point, but is the only argument I've ever heard when I broach the topic.
The fact you see it used so much (while sitting in traffic im sure) proves that were anyone allowed to use it, overall traffic flow would be exponentially faster, thus better gas mileage. The bain of our global economy, & especially USA.
It would be interesting to see who really pushed it & "why", but I'm sure some secrets will always be hidden. I doubt any kind of movement could be started to have them removed nationally. People will defend their right to judge others in any fashion & at all costs.
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: MasterOfTheDamned
a reply to: Eunuchorn
I would have to put this a different way.
Big Oil: more lanes on the freeway means traffic flows better and commuters spend less gasoline on their daily trip to work, you need to quit making freeways so wide.
Politician in Big Oil's pocket book: We have already put too much effort into this and can't simply stop without the general populous becoming enraged.
Big Oil: How about this then, take the left lane of the freeway and make it restricted to vehicles used for carpooling to "promote carpooling to save the environment", then, where possible, take the next lane over and use it for barricades to restrict access to the carpool lane so less people can use it, no one will ask questions about that.
Politician in Big Oil's pocket book: I LOVE YOU MAN!!! I will do this right now.
Isn't that what I said?
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
You argue that people drive with other people to go about their daily lives BECAUSE there's a carpool lane?
This is pure conjecture, & really isn't even logical.
Regional data indicate that HOV lanes do induce people to carpool, but the statewide impact on carpooling is unknown due to lack of data.
Research indicates that even underused carpool lanes have a smoothing effect on freeway traffic.
They found that in the two lanes closest to the carpool lane, a reduction in the lane-changing rate was followed by an increase in the "queue discharge flow" when the carpool restriction went into effect. In other words, people started changing lanes less frequently and bottlenecks cleared up. The researchers argue that the fact that this occurred so close to 3 p.m. strongly suggests that the carpool lane is responsible.