California 'Shoot the gays' initiative likely to be circulated

I need some help. How do I get the process started to file a 'Shoot the Lawyers' initiative? I'll bet I get my 365,000 signatures WAY faster than that douchebag does.

When I read this I was hoping it was someone making a point that the California laws system needs changed.

Now I'm sad to see people actually think that way. California really is as crazy as everyone says.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I'd suggest it'll be pretty easy for the Judge to rule this as illegal...


Saying I hate *insert group* is not the same as saying I want to shoot *insert group*...



I'm sure encroaching another's freedom is unconstitutional, therefore this "law" is really just bulls#!

It would take some real guts to stand out on the street with that petition and a clipboard!

Some folks might take offence and shove that clipboard down your throat or up your....

a reply to: olaru12

or up your....

That'd be the ultimate irony!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Christians, this is why we don't like your religion anymore. People like this give you guys a bad name.

If this nut wants this law in action, he should just move to Iraq. I hear ISIS would be a good fit for such ideology. Oh wait, he probably hates Muslims too...

But remember, Krazy, you yourself are a proponent of the line of thought that when a Muslim does things that are crazy, it's just one person and not all Muslims.

You cannot have it both ways.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The guy is a nutjob. His petition will not go far, will not be supported by even the most religious of the religious, and will not make it to law--not even close. He's just a crazy attention whore.

It would probably pass in Texas....or Kansas, maybe Idaho...

Nope. That's a bit of a stretch that is as bad as "the gays want to put us Christians in FEMA camps." As much as I disagree with the fundy crowd, they would be opposed to government sanctioned mass murder. It's right there in the 5th amendment: nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The guy is a nutjob. His petition will not go far, will not be supported by even the most religious of the religious, and will not make it to law--not even close. He's just a crazy attention whore.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention to the Christians lately have we?
Tempe pastor remains unapologetic in his call for execution of gay people
You will find that other Christians especially of the Evangelical sect that would fully support killing people for being gay.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: NavyDoc

I'm going to use the popular argument used against Muslim fundamentalism against you. Why aren't moderate Christians speaking up and trying to put a stop to these people?

They do all of the time. Heck, some of the biggest detractors of the Westboro Baptist church are Christians.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I have no problem with this guy working within the system regardless of his backward view of the world.

I'd love to run into him at the grocery store collecting signatures. The internet is so sterile, you loose something in the exchange of ideas. Face to face is the real deal.

i have found in life that the more some one is out spoken about something is because they are hiding something. this guy reminds me of Ted Haggard. he had so much hatred for gays. then one day his male hooker lover calls him out. only some one that hates them self for being gay, hides that and talk crap on some one that acts out that fantasy. i can almost guarantee this guy has some form of gay porn around him at all times.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The guy is a nutjob. His petition will not go far, will not be supported by even the most religious of the religious, and will not make it to law--not even close. He's just a crazy attention whore.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention to the Christians lately have we?
Tempe pastor remains unapologetic in his call for execution of gay people
You will find that other Christians especially of the Evangelical sect that would fully support killing people for being gay.

You can find an example of a nutjob in any demographic if you look hard enough. Some radical GLBT activists have proposed "bring back the lions" in reference that we have to kill those nasty Christians. To hold up that piece of nasty rhetoric and say, "see what gays want" is just as stupid.

The truth is that the vast majority of Christians do not want to shoot gays in the head and the vast majority of gay people do not want to feed Christians to the lions or put them on FEMA camps and to suggest that individuals who say extreme things represent the whole is silly.

I'd say that this guy is a disgrace to his profession but that's something of an oxymoron isn't it?

a reply to: NavyDoc

Westboro are nits that need to be picked. No one likes them. But they aren't about being liked; they're about press. Thankfully they've fallen off the radar with Phelps' death.

a reply to: cancerslug


For research purposes, obviously!

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: NavyDoc

No that argument is completely flaccid...

& all too common in the paranoid mind of those (not you specifically) worried that their freedom of speech is under threat just because hatemongering may be quashed.


The perpetrator, the one who threatens or promotes violence on another person/group is who defines it by opening their big mouths...




So long story short, don't threaten people, and it cannot be defined as inciting hatred.

No, it is a valid point. Who gets to say what is "hate speech?"

Threatening people is already against the law. If I say "I'm gonna kick your ass," I have promulgated a threat that is actionable. If I say, "somebody should kick your ass" I've presented an opinion and it is not actionable.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The guy is a nutjob. His petition will not go far, will not be supported by even the most religious of the religious, and will not make it to law--not even close. He's just a crazy attention whore.

It would probably pass in Texas....or Kansas, maybe Idaho...

Nope. That's a bit of a stretch that is as bad as "the gays want to put us Christians in FEMA camps." As much as I disagree with the fundy crowd, they would be opposed to government sanctioned mass murder. It's right there in the 5th amendment: nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Really, I get the impression from the fundy crowd as you call them that they put the Bible way in front of the Constitution and would be more than happy to implement....

Leviticus 18 and 20

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."[1]
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."[2]

a reply to: NavyDoc

*sigh*

"Who will rid me of these meddlesome homosexes?"

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The guy is a nutjob. His petition will not go far, will not be supported by even the most religious of the religious, and will not make it to law--not even close. He's just a crazy attention whore.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention to the Christians lately have we?
Tempe pastor remains unapologetic in his call for execution of gay people
You will find that other Christians especially of the Evangelical sect that would fully support killing people for being gay.

You are always going to find people in any group that call for the removal of the opposition through death.



Remember this ad from the green lobby? Maybe you don't because it wasn't a US ad, but it basically advocates for killing everyone who doesn't pitch in and help out with the green agenda.

a reply to: NavyDoc

If you say you wanna kick someone's arse that's between you and them and will amount to nothing unless someone presses charges.


If you say someone should kick someone else's arse at a gathering of likeminded but actually willing people you're inciting hatred...




It's not as complex as people make out.
It's a paranoid stance imo.