911 Truth Hijacked: 911 Perps Created the Truth Movement!

I will go out on a limb here...

I CHALLENGE you to a duel...

I bet you cannot last almost 3 hours of information...I couldn't do it myself in one sitting...I had to get up and make more martinis just to keep my sanity....Give it a shot...I challenge ALL ATS members to try this....

Watch THIS................

www.youtube.com...

ISO

a reply to: isofakingwetoddid

Let's see. Why I won't be watching that:

1) It's on Youtube.

2) It's 170 minutes long.

3) It's called "Wake Up Film BEST EVER" by Wake Up productions.

4) It has a narrator with a snooty accent.

5) It's starts off with a long clip from Ronald RayGun.

6) It's on Youube.

originally posted by: isofakingwetoddid
Watch THIS................

www.youtube.com...

ISO

No, it is full of freeman on the land nonsense etc.

eg.

www.quatloos.com...

the Gregorian calendar is wrong. It's 40 years out, apparently. This year is really numbered 2054. According to Michael. I'm sure he's right and everyone else is wrong. And, talking of junk, he didn't register the birth of his child because if he did, under the Government Annuities Act 1929 the government would create an annuity under that child's name and if he didn't claim the money, the gubbermint would declare the child dead after 7 years and and claim the money for itself, for its war chest. Of course, the Act doesn't say that, but even if it did then why wouldn't Michael claim this free gift for his child? He swiftly moves on before his audience can ask.

originally posted by: isofakingwetoddid
I will go out on a limb here...

I CHALLENGE you to a duel...

I bet you cannot last almost 3 hours of information...I couldn't do it myself in one sitting...I had to get up and make more martinis just to keep my sanity....Give it a shot...I challenge ALL ATS members to try this....

Watch THIS................

www.youtube.com...

ISO

I could barely sit through three hours of Avaturd, but I should sit through three hours of YouTurd? No way, lol...

But you sat thru 12 years of Brainwashing in school and thousands of hours of MSM bs and you seem to just eat it up...

What is the matter with looking at both sides and using the info to make an "intelligent decision"...?

I will support "hellobruce" and your opinion until I see some sort of discrepancy in it...I have found some..

When a person becomes so idealized to THEIR way of thinking that all other aspects are disregarded, than I think your opinion may be skewed to a certain degree....


Let's look at the "direct energy weapons" side of it..
Let's look at the nanothermite side of it.
Let's look at the 19 hijackers side of it.
Let's look at the insurance claims of it....

Let's examine it from every direction and maybe we can make some sense of it..

Because I will tell you this...I have bought a bad car from a guy that sounded REALLY knowledgeable.
I have bought stocks from people that were supposed to be "EXPERTS"....
I have paid taxes and didn't realize where they REALLY went to.
I worked for the government and realize they (who is THEY) might not have YOUR best interest at heart.
I have trusted people in my life that turned out to NOT be my friend....

The OS has some flaws in it and I just want the TRUTH...

Is that too much to ask?

Mr. Cheney...answer this question...
Mr. Bush...answer this question...

We can't even get THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For gods sake, what is the matter with this society?????

We should be in D.C. right now making citizens arrests on Bohner and Hillary and many others yet we sit here and do nothing. Things are NOT going to change and the TRUTH is never gonna come out until we take back our power....
Yet...It will never happen in our lifetime...We are too much a bunch of pussies to do anything about it...

I give up....

I don't ever want to know the truth in my lifetime...I want to go on thru life feeling that I am IMPORTANT and my vote makes a difference and my taxes build roads and take care of the poor....

I may be disillusioned and I might not have a grasp on what society really is ............BUT!!!!!!!!!!!

This stupid, dislillusioned coackroach society...SPECIES.. that we are, is about the most worthless POS that could exist in the cosmos. We need...NO, We DESERVE an annihilation that will take out the majority of those that think they have some sort of power over others....

Screw all the black and white controversy, the haves and have nots and the historical background of what we are told.
I have neighbors that don't have jobs or money and they have NO idea how they are gonna survive....This is becoming prevalent in main stream America right now.....It might just be ME, but it seems like there is a problem!!!!!!

I am willing to bet that there are a few people that know what REALLY went on on 911, and it is NOT what we have been led to believe...

I have made alot of wrong decisions in my life but I still feel that I was lied to and manipulated about the REALITY of 911....

ISO

originally posted by: isofakingwetoddid
But you sat thru 12 years of Brainwashing in school and thousands of hours of MSM bs and you seem to just eat it up...

What is the matter with looking at both sides and using the info to make an "intelligent decision"...?

I will support "hellobruce" and your opinion until I see some sort of discrepancy in it...I have found some..

When a person becomes so idealized to THEIR way of thinking that all other aspects are disregarded, than I think your opinion may be skewed to a certain degree....


Let's look at the "direct energy weapons" side of it..
Let's look at the nanothermite side of it.
Let's look at the 19 hijackers side of it.
Let's look at the insurance claims of it....

Let's examine it from every direction and maybe we can make some sense of it..

Because I will tell you this...I have bought a bad car from a guy that sounded REALLY knowledgeable.
I have bought stocks from people that were supposed to be "EXPERTS"....
I have paid taxes and didn't realize where they REALLY went to.
I worked for the government and realize they (who is THEY) might not have YOUR best interest at heart.
I have trusted people in my life that turned out to NOT be my friend....

The OS has some flaws in it and I just want the TRUTH...

Is that too much to ask?

Mr. Cheney...answer this question...
Mr. Bush...answer this question...

We can't even get THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For gods sake, what is the matter with this society?????

We should be in D.C. right now making citizens arrests on Bohner and Hillary and many others yet we sit here and do nothing. Things are NOT going to change and the TRUTH is never gonna come out until we take back our power....
Yet...It will never happen in our lifetime...We are too much a bunch of pussies to do anything about it...

I give up....

I don't ever want to know the truth in my lifetime...I want to go on thru life feeling that I am IMPORTANT and my vote makes a difference and my taxes build roads and take care of the poor....

I may be disillusioned and I might not have a grasp on what society really is ............BUT!!!!!!!!!!!

This stupid, dislillusioned coackroach society...SPECIES.. that we are, is about the most worthless POS that could exist in the cosmos. We need...NO, We DESERVE an annihilation that will take out the majority of those that think they have some sort of power over others....

Screw all the black and white controversy, the haves and have nots and the historical background of what we are told.
I have neighbors that don't have jobs or money and they have NO idea how they are gonna survive....This is becoming prevalent in main stream America right now.....It might just be ME, but it seems like there is a problem!!!!!!

I am willing to bet that there are a few people that know what REALLY went on on 911, and it is NOT what we have been led to believe...

I have made alot of wrong decisions in my life but I still feel that I was lied to and manipulated about the REALITY of 911....

ISO

And no one is stopping you from "feeling" however you want. But the facts to back your feelings are completely missing.

originally posted by: isofakingwetoddid
But you sat thru 12 years of Brainwashing in school and thousands of hours of MSM bs and you seem to just eat it up...

Can't speak for the others but this kind of remark just annoys the hell out of me. It's something of an Ad Hom. I've spent decades questioning EVERYTHING. As I've shared here earlier, I originally believed in a 9/11 conspiracy but changed my mind after honestly evaluating the debate.

originally posted by: isofakingwetoddid
Let's look at the "direct energy weapons" side of it..

Cool. I'll look at that. Do you have a link to something written? I'm not going to sit through a 3 hour video.

a reply to: wotyathink

I suppose I was disappointed with the page as I did not see any links to scientific papers, published or unpublished...where's the data there? I noticed a lot of videos posted there, and links to some other "9/11 researchers"' pages, but no hard data referenced that I could see.

As I've said, I'm familiar with her theories as I've heard her interviewed, I just don't see the links to the hard data supporting it now that I'm trying to reference it. Can anyone provide these links? I do have an open mind to the subject, just show me the data.

THe planned irony is that the last 2 pages were nothing but silly arguments about fantastical theories that have nothing to do with the real evidence.

Who keeps promoting and changing the subject derailing the subject of how the truth movement was hijacked by these very people.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Didn't mean to waste your time DEL..

There are plenty of links.

Direct energy weapons have been going on since the 1960's..

I didn't know about it until I found the links...I actually had to search them out myself...

MAybe you outta watch a little thing called "SAMSARA"...it's on Netflix and doesn't have any Hollywood Stars...

THEN...come back and tell me what a dumba$$ I am...

Just look up a simple thing called "elecTROmagnetic Scalar Interforometer weapons.....Tom Bearden

Sorry...don't want the link coming back at me...

ISO

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It is interesting when you connect the dots of who was spreading all the crazy theories about 911 which has been brought to light that it was started by elements linked to Israeli companies and other agencies within the u.s. This is COINTELPRO. Look it up.

originally posted by: engineercutoutI just don't see the links to the hard data

The hard data is the fact that 14 people survived inside the north tower at or near ground level.

These 14 people, most of them firemen, appear to have walked out of the rubble after getting the whole north tower on top of them. Well, actually not on top of them because almost no rubble had fallen in the towers footprint area.

This obviously collides with both the official and the thermite/explosives theory.

This is not a theory but fact and is one of the reasons for J. Wood to look for another explanation.

14 people were located INSIDE THE CENTRAL CORE and should have been blown up together with the central core. The fact is these people did not even hear the central core explode. Still, the central core was gone...

I can post the ground zero images and interviews with these firemen once more if you like.

Judy Woods approach explains what Richard Gage doesn't.

Personally I don't care too much about which alternative theory is most correct.

originally posted by: wotyathink
14 people were located INSIDE THE CENTRAL CORE and should have been blown up together with the central core. The fact is these people did not even hear the central core explode.

Just a silly conspiracy theory that explosives were used.... where is the evidence for explosives? How do they hear a non existent explosion?

originally posted by: hellobruce
Just a silly conspiracy theory that explosives were used.... where is the evidence for explosives? How do they hear a non existent explosion?

No not a silly theory because WTC 1 and 2 certainly looked like as if they exploded. A collapse looks entirely different.

What kind of energy source can make these two towers "explode" the way they did other than conventional explosives?

As for silly conspiracy theories; how come gravity was so devastating that morning that it took out WTC 1 and 2, WITHOUT taking out parts of the ground level facade, WITHOUT leaving a a significant rubble pile in the footprints, and WITHOUT killing the 14 survivors?

I mean the official theory does require enormous amounts of energy as well in order to achieve such a "collapse" and make the central core go poof all the way down to the bottom floor WITHOUT killing the people that were in it...

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
It is interesting when you connect the dots of who was spreading all the crazy theories about 911

The interesting thing is neither you, nor Richard Gage, nor Steven Jones answers the questions J. Wood asks.

Very amateurish to say the least.

originally posted by: wotyathink

originally posted by: engineercutoutI just don't see the links to the hard data

The hard data is the fact that 14 people survived inside the north tower at or near ground level.

These 14 people, most of them firemen, appear to have walked out of the rubble after getting the whole north tower on top of them. Well, actually not on top of them because almost no rubble had fallen in the towers footprint area.

This obviously collides with both the official and the thermite/explosives theory.

This is not a theory but fact and is one of the reasons for J. Wood to look for another explanation.

14 people were located INSIDE THE CENTRAL CORE and should have been blown up together with the central core. The fact is these people did not even hear the central core explode. Still, the central core was gone...

I can post the ground zero images and interviews with these firemen once more if you like.

Judy Woods approach explains what Richard Gage doesn't.

Personally I don't care too much about which alternative theory is most correct.

Well, that is certainly an intriguing aspect to the story, but it doesn't answer my question or address my concerns. Again: As I've said, I'm familiar with her theories as I've heard her interviewed, I just don't see the links to the hard data supporting it now that I'm trying to reference it. Can anyone provide these links? I do have an open mind to the subject, just show me the data.

The conspiracy theories is the conspiracy. What ever the truth is the amount of different conspiracies on the subject became a great distraction for the truth. Was this purposely set up? Yes and it started from the day of. Imagine that a van full of middle eastern looking dudes is found full of explosives, or that they were filming the event, or that they were celebrating the event and turn out to be Israelis is too hard to believe. Unless you know you will be let go for sure that you would risk driving around under such conditions and the purpose is to send people in different directions. Everything had disguises to keep us going in circles like the plane with the apparent missile attached to it on the video.

THese theories are meant to keep you researching rubbish rather than find who funded the 911 hijackers, why are some of the hijackers alive today, what was Ptechs role in allowing a electronic hijack of the 911 wargames on 911, insider trading, the Israelis shadowing and following the hijackers as they trained in U.S air bases. Stuff like that.

This is what the thread is about how people are purposefully trying to mislead you from answering the basic questions above.

Watch this.

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
A great documentary that reveals many truths about 9/11 unseen by most.

James Corbett's humorous take on 9/11 has gone completely viral, amassing 500,000 views in just 5 days on youtube. This 5-minute satire of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory' uses factoids and hilarious graphics to drive home its points in what can only be called a masterpiece of reductio ad absurdum.

Whatever it is, it's working. A half-million views in 5 days speaks for itself.

Transcript and sources: www.corbettreport.com...

originally posted by: engineercutout
Again: As I've said, I'm familiar with her theories as I've heard her interviewed, I just don't see the links to the hard data supporting it now that I'm trying to reference it.

Discussing theories here would be off topic.

I'm only pointing out the basic facts and which Judy Woods research is based upon.

originally posted by: engineercutoutintriguing aspect

Factual information is intriguing?