Was Obama actually a legal US citizen if his Daddy was already married to someone else?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: xuenchen

And that is absolutely irrelevant, as Obama was not adopted.

But it's impossible to prove that by his Hawaiian birth certificate because the "original" is sealed away along with the adoption court papers.



I say that's what the big issue is.

He was an adopted foreign born child.

Now we know why all the major scrambles.

The question remains whether a foreign born adopted person is "Natural Born" by any legal standard.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
Ignore the old fox, that's what he does best.

That's highly questionable...

originally posted by: xuenchen
But it's impossible to prove that by his Hawaiian birth certificate because the "original" is sealed away along with the adoption court papers.

Show me the adoption papers and then we'll talk about your fantasy of a foreign birth and adoption. I'll also throw in a pink unicorn and some fairy dust for good measure.

I say that's what the big issue is.

He was an adopted foreign born child.

You have a vivid imagination, but since we don't have any evidence of either a foreign birth or an adoption, it's all in your head, with that imagination of yours. We could imagine that he's a gay reptilian, as well, but until we see any evidence, that's just a fairy tale, too.

By the way... YOUR original birth certificate is "sealed away", as well as mine.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

To unseal adoption records, you need to show cause.

Since there's no precedent for "natural born citizens" being foreign born adoptees, no court will grant an order to unseal.

In fact, Obama himself would have difficulty "legally" unsealing those records.

And I love how people get all freaked out when this is suggested.



But we should all trust Obama 100%.

a reply to: xuenchen

He was an adopted foreign born child.

Hawaii isn't a foreign country.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: xuenchen

And that is absolutely irrelevant, as Obama was not adopted.

But it's impossible to prove that by his Hawaiian birth certificate because the "original" is sealed away along with the adoption court papers.

I say that's what the big issue is.

He was an adopted foreign born child.

Now we know why all the major scrambles.

The question remains whether a foreign born adopted person is "Natural Born" by any legal standard.

There is 0% proof that he was adopted but I'm 100% certain that you are stirring. Again.

a reply to: xuenchen



That's Obama's maternal grandfather on the right. Looks almost identical to Obama. That'd be a pretty big coincidence for Obama to be adopted and then just so happen to look like his adopted mom's dad when he grew up.

Sigh.
Attack the guy on his politics but to spread BS like he is a Muslim and he was not born in the USA is just low low mudslinging.
Some on ATS must have degrees in mud slinging.
Very sad and tbh it shows you up.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Photoshop is a wonderful tool isn't it.

a reply to: xuenchen
He was an adopted foreign born child.

originally posted by: windword

Hawaii isn't a foreign country.

Indonesia is

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Hmmm.....

originally posted by: xuenchen

a reply to: xuenchen
He was an adopted foreign born child.

originally posted by: windword

Hawaii isn't a foreign country.

Indonesia is

edit on Mar-01-2015 by xuenchen because: --[/_oo_]

Soooooo, his parents were time travellers were they?

a reply to: xuenchen

Obama wasn't born in Indonesia. His adopted father's citizenship has nothing to do with Obama's American Natural Born Citizen status.

a reply to: windword

The old fox is stirring. Best to ignore him.

a reply to: rnaa

Thanks for that, it was just what I had hope to see by way of supporting facts. Star of course.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg



Yeah fact checking isn't his forte.

originally posted by: windword

Obama wasn't born in Indonesia. His adopted father's citizenship has nothing to do with Obama's American Natural Born Citizen status.

Lolo Soetoro could be the biological father, but more likely Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo is.

The Dunham family was tied to both men.

Soetoro was an Indonesian government agent.

Obama's biological Mother was Indonesian.

a reply to: xuenchen

And he looks nothing like Obama. So I don't know what point you're trying to make.

a reply to: xuenchen

Obama's biological Mother was Indonesian.

Sigh. Ann Dunham was born in Wichita, Kansas.

Lolo Soetoro could be the biological father, but more likely Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo is.

Worthless speculation! Could be's and likely's just don't cut it.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

He's trying to get a rise out of us. He knows he's spouting nonsense, he knows that he's creating anti-Obama theories out what I shall charitably describe as absolutely nothing, but he's getting a reaction. Best ignore him. That or throw him a shiny thing.