Obama Refused to Give Jordan, Egypt Information on ISIS Targets

Well the founders must never have counted on a quisling in office because along with aiding and abetting the enemy they forgot to add omission of duty as treason.

And no I absolutely do not buy the excuse of exposing methods and means as a reason to not help Egypt and Jordan with targeting ISIS - its more like the oppositional acts of a petulant child in chief.

a reply to: ketsuko

I don't think it is just so simple as saying, oh ya there is a some blokes over there.

If they want reliable info it probably would have to do with how we gathered it.

I'll get on board with the idea that US doesn't want to share cause of our involvement with arming them though.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Granite

It's not like we share our intel with all our allies when they ask.

And this is just one person on fox news talking, why do we need to take it as a fact?
Also is it 100% barry's call if or if we do not share info?

I heard it from "the replacement host" on Sean Hanity show, Jonathon Gilliam interviewed retired Gen MacIlheny too on Monday.
He is the retired Navy Seal forgot his full name, but Johnathon xx.

The military talks to each other about many things we don't have privy too.

a reply to: Phoenix

So since we are tossing around treason here, what proof do we have that barry is the one that decided that the info would not be shared?
How do we know he wasn't advised to not share?
All we have right now is fox news with some guy that gives no source to the claim, is that all we really need?

a reply to: Granite

So just more he said she said.

Sure the military talk to each other but doesn't mean what they talk about is a fact.
Rumors get spread and distorted at the scuttlebutt.

To all:

I am a strong believer that the President of the United States of America is a puppet/figurehead who does NOT have any power whatsoever. He is nothing more than a face, he is a pawn in the theater which we call politics.

Many former presidents have acknowledged this fact:

Former Presidents Warn About Secret Shadow Government

Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

There are some very evil people behind the scenes making all the decisions, to blame Obama is ignorant IMO. I am no fan of Obama as he allows himself to be the current face of the NWO that lets hellfire fall upon innocent children via drone strike so no I am not defending him.

This whole ISIS thing has a purpose and ISIS isn't going anywhere until their purpose has been served. Anyone remember General Wesley Clark and his alleged presence when plans to destabilize the Middle East were mentioned by Pentagon/Whitehouse officials?

His timing is a little off but otherwise his claims are eerily similar to what is going on today in the Middle East and beyond.



The moral of the story is that this has been planned for a long time now and blaming Obama because he does not fit within your political affiliation will not make the problem go away. Let's start reading between the lines and go after the real culprits - THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE CURTAIN - as long as we continue bickering over which politician was right or wrong for which ever reason we are doing exactly as they want - divide and conquer - us humans are gullible beings.

Sorry if my post seemed like a rant as I was all over the place but my scatter brain works like that sometimes, information overload is what I call it.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Granite

So just more he said she said.

Sure the military talk to each other but doesn't mean what they talk about is a fact.
Rumors get spread and distorted at the scuttlebutt.

Nice deflection there...

a reply to: real_one


Yep. Here's a great book I read on this subject, "The Shadows of Power" that says, in a nutshell, our government is basically directed by the Council on Foreign Relations.
www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424204227&sr=8-1&keywords=shadows+of+power

a reply to: Granite

How is it a deflection?

Its just more I heard from a friend of a friend.

And are any of them saying that he was advised to share the info and decided on his own not to?

Isn't this the guy, Oliver North, who sold weapons to IRAN to finance terror squads in South America?

And we should trust anything he says because....

a reply to: UnBreakable

I've posted two articles in recent months describing "mistaken airdrops" that were meant for U.S., Iraqi troops or Kurdish Rebels.

ISIS has also acquired heavy artillery left by fleeing Iraqi forces, and has a pretty extensive arsenal of weapons

The Guadian article
Washington Post article

originally posted by: amazing
Isn't this the guy, Oliver North, who sold weapons to IRAN to finance terror squads in South America?

And we should trust anything he says because....

On the flip side, should we trust anything this admin. says aside from Benghazi, the IRS lost emails, Fast and Furious, etc.?

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: amazing
Isn't this the guy, Oliver North, who sold weapons to IRAN to finance terror squads in South America?

And we should trust anything he says because....

On the flip side, should we trust anything this admin. says aside from Benghazi, the IRS lost emails, Fast and Furious, etc.?

You've got some valid questions there, but that's another issue. I'm just not sure we should be listening to Oliver North and I'm not so sure the Obama really said no for a request for intel against ISIS. But let's get Mr. North out of the equation.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: UnBreakable

I've posted two articles in recent months describing "mistaken airdrops" that were meant for U.S., Iraqi troops or Kurdish Rebels.

ISIS has also acquired heavy artillery left by fleeing Iraqi forces, and has a pretty extensive arsenal of weapons

The Guadian article
Washington Post article

Thanks for the info. My search skills on this sight are lacking.

a reply to: ketsuko

Because you don't just say, "here are the GPS coordinates". To accurately target you need overheads, preferably video, and detailed analysis. I can count on a couple of fingers the number of times the US has shared overheads good enough to target with.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Ok that's fine. So if we're unwilling to back up Egypt and Jordan and partner with them in this fight, where does this lady,



Harf, come off as saying we are "in the fight with Egypt and Jordan?" This kind of thing isn't a separate but equal fight. We are either fighting together or we're going on our own.

a reply to: UnBreakable

So a known liar and neocon fallboy told a Scientologist some crap and that makes it true?

a reply to: ketsuko

Because there are a lot of ways to support them besides Intel. They've been using US tankers on missions, F-22s and F-16CJs as escorts, US weapons to supplement their stockpiles...

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: UnBreakable

I'm not doubting you...but find this very hard to believe. WHY would we not help them target ISIS...if we have targets to give them?
It makes no sense.

Myself, seeing Obamas track record, I don't find this hard to believe at all.

me either, they are all cut from the same cloth

a reply to: IAMTAT

Unless he is an infiltrator in the Whitehouse placed by big left cash,that indeed hides his passed ,THEN it makes sense.
I'll take OLiver's ,word even though I know one of the troops who fought under his black op.