Magadought threatens US in decades to come....

DOOM PORN ON!...............
Climate modelling is getting better....but this bad news is not a welcome addition to the mix....
It happened in the dust bowl.....can it happen again.....I think so.....but will it....
heres the link....
Lets hear your take on this.......www.cbc.ca...
quote from source....

There is an 80 per cent chance of an extended drought between 2050 and 2099 unless aggressive steps are taken to mitigate the impacts of climate change, the article predicted.

Oh no, quick, let's tax the hell out of our citizens in order to finance scientists, who in turn will tell us we need to off set our carbon footprint, by paying more taxes.

If CO2 really is to blame and the evidence suggests catastrophic consequences, why are most Governments intent on continuing the fracking of Mother Earth?

Global warming was started by the Tory party in order to close down the coal mines in the U.K. Since then every Government in the west has jumped on the band wagon as they can use it as an excuse to raise revenue to fight their wars.

See how it works?

Just another scam you say......very likely right to a degree, but yet the climate seems much milder these days where I am at.....we never even had any show this year or last......we are just on the 50th parrallell

My part of the U.K has been quite mild this winter, but last winter was even milder.

The three years prior to this we had quite a bit of snow and very cold, getting down to -12 degrees Celcius and the previous ten years were hit and miss. Some years being very cold with lots of snow, others being mild with lots of rain.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Yeah I'm surprised how much of a non-winter we're having...

Don't know how/if it relates to climate change though.



But it hasn't felt like winter.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Yes, I'm gutted we have had no snow here this year. A nice blanket of snow usually guarantees a day off work, but alas no extra days off for the last couple of years.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Here in quebec we are covered with snow. A good meter high of it. Life continues as usual.

a reply to: swanne

Half of an inch of snow on the ground here and everything comes to a standstill. I'd love to live in Canada.

I live in Illinois and I have to say that winter sucks.

I want to move to a warmer climate.

As far as droughts go, have they not happened in the past?

What makes everyone believe they shouldn't happen in the future? I don't need a computer simulation to tell me that.

It's just now that theclimate change fear mongering is so blatant, that everything from now on will have the "climate change" approved message.

Winter sucks.

Mega drought? As far as I can see, oh, yes. I am just north of California, and this is the driest winter of our 6 years here. And significantly drier. We are in a valley which usually has snow topped mountains in all directions. Bare. The local ski resort JUST opened last week - for the first time all season. And while we have had rain for days, it's been far less than what we need in my garden (as a microcosm).

I come from decades on the East Coast, and lack of water was never a concern. It was always how to get rid of it all after a storm. Living here has been an eye opening experience. What passes for big water out here wouldn't have even needed hip boots back east. And those are few and far between.

Who or what ever is responsible for the lack of rain out here, it is a real situation. Water wars have been a quiet undertone in community discussions since we got here. Mega drought is a possibility - for this area. That doesn't mean everyone, everywhere. But don't throw out OUR baby with all that bath water, please.

I don't know what I believe about man-made climate change because the entire scientific community has been co-opted by the almighty dollar and can't be trusted. The only thing I know for sure is the climate will change like it has for billions of years.

originally posted by: stirling
Just another scam you say......very likely right to a degree, but yet the climate seems much milder these days where I am at.....we never even had any show this year or last......we are just on the 50th parrallell

Remember, when it's warm, that's global warming ... or climate change if you prefer. But when it's colder than expected )or any other result that doesn't jive with what you told people to expect with global warming/climate change), that's just weather and we can all expect to get back to our predicted climate apocalypse just as soon as the weather changes to suit our predictions.

Haven't you figured this out yet?

Not to mention, just exactly how many meso-American cultures and cities were lost due to the periodic megadroughts the Western half of the American continent is prone to? I know the Anasazi are one. There are several central American cities that died out due to climate shifts from drought.

This is something that happens.

Now I will not argue that we are draining the water table in the west instead of making wise decisions, and the implication of that may render the West a desert for the long-term rather than simply arid.

I thought global temps rising would create much higher rainfall than we have experienced in the past....isn't this logical.....

a reply to: stirling

Depends on where; I remember seeing projections that some areas would be wetter and some dryer. Of course, there is research that also suggests that cooler temps also results in dryer climates in some areas, too.

The end conclusion I draw is that climate changes and it's difficult to predict what the prevailing patterns would be.

It's the jet stream that drives the weather conditions in the U.K, and we are at its mercy. If it is driven South in the winter, it allows in cold air from the North and temperatures usually plummet. If it is driven North, it allows the currents from the South to bring in milder air.

It has been as far North as just off the Icelandic coast and as far south as Northern France. It's been a mainly mild winter, but there was a cold spell for about two weeks, that we are now coming out of.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Oh no, quick, let's tax the hell out of our citizens in order to finance scientists, who in turn will tell us we need to off set our carbon footprint, by paying more taxes.

If CO2 really is to blame and the evidence suggests catastrophic consequences, why are most Governments intent on continuing the fracking of Mother Earth?

Global warming was started by the Tory party in order to close down the coal mines in the U.K. Since then every Government in the west has jumped on the band wagon as they can use it as an excuse to raise revenue to fight their wars.

See how it works?



Coal mines were closed in the UK because it was cheaper to import it from Poland, among other coal producing nations, just like everyone imports cheap crap from China, because it is cheaper to import than produce.

Global warming causes climate change.
Climate change is affecting the jet stream.
Climate change doesn't mean the end of winters anytime soon, maybe never.
In some places because of the affected jet stream, arctic air is dipping down and hanging around making winter much colder.
In some places winters will be snowier because of warmer waters creating more moisture in the air.
The affected jet stream is also causing weather to be stagnant, meaning where it's wet, it's getting wetter... where it's dry it's getting drier.

That's why people look completely foolish when they mock things they don't understand and downright stupid when they won't bother even trying to understand.

Climate change is causing all sorts of things at once and will get worse as it gets warmer. It's causing droughts or causing existing droughts to last longer. It's causing flooding or where it floods to flood worse. It's causing extremely mild and extremely intense winters, simultaneously. It's causing very mild and very intense summers, simultaneously.

a reply to: Kali74

What if climate change causes both global warming and global cooling ... you know like it did for both the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age to say nothing of other similar periods both more and less severe even further back?

a reply to: ketsuko

Neither were global events. During the MWP the global temperature was still lower than today. Global temperatures are going up even if only a little bit on the surface right now, the oceans are warming more so currently. So, no climate change isn't causing warming and cooling at the same time. The reality is, however much the proposed solutions are disliked... that global warming is changing the climate.

I think Vulcanism, has a lot more to do with it than human influence.....
We need more data on crustal displacement. and the inner cores of earth....something far bigger than personal transportation is driving changes...maybe theres more to the precession in terms of influences than we currently ascribe....
Also are we not currently crossing a high energy density section of space? As well as in collision with the Milky Way?