Dead Teen Comes BACK TO LIFE as Mom Prays.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Meanwhile in the rest of the world over 20,000kids die a day. Many of which will go to hell because they don't believe in the right God, to suffer eternity of torment in burning fire. What a miracle worker your God is

Haha suckas never found Jesus!

Don't expect any of the religious to respond to you; ignorance is bliss after all.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

45-year-old male was winter swimming in icy water. When trying to swim from one hole in the ice to another he got disoriented and was caught under the ice. He was brought up by rescuedivers after approximately 20 minutes. He was pulseless with an initial rhythm of asystole. Endotracheal intubation was performed on the site, and he was transported to hospital with ongoing manual chest compressions and ventilation. Epinephrine 4 mg and atropine 3 mg was administered en route to the hospital. End-tidal carbon dioxide (EtCO2) was between 1.6 and 6 kPa. Upon arrival at the emergency department (ED), approximately 70 minutes after the accident, he was still in cardiac arrest with asystole, and mechanical chest compressions were started (LUCAS, Jolife AB, Lund, Sweden). EtCO2 was 3,0 kPa. Initial bladder temperature was 32,2°C. He had a profound combined metabolic and respiratory acidosis with a pH of 6.47, S-potassium was 3,9 mMol/L. Mechanical chest-compressions were continued until extracorporeal circulation (ECC) was established approximately 110 min after the accident. Approximately 190 min after the accident a central temperature of 34°C was reached; spontaneous cardiac activity was established initially as nodal rythme and then sinus rythme. Further rewarming was withheld. A bronchoscopy preformed during ECC showed signs of pulmonary edema. ECC was discontinued and he was transferred to the intensive care unit where he received further fluid resuscitation and inotropic support. Mild hypothermia was continued for 24 hours after which he was rewarmed to normothermia. He remained stable and was gradually weaned from mechanical ventilation. www.hindawi.com...

There are many cases of people surviving after drowning in cold waters much longer than that boy in fact it is well known that hypothermia slows the heart to the extent that in some cases it is medically induced for surgery patients.

But what about brain recovery and function? Usually, in most, if not ALL cases they are at least partially brain damaged/dead.

Feel free to prove me wrong as I'm just going from recollection.

a reply to: EunuchornI will pray for their ignorance, maybe God will take care of it, I imagine he'll just let a few more innocent children die instead

originally posted by: Eunuchorn

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Meanwhile in the rest of the world over 20,000kids die a day. Many of which will go to hell because they don't believe in the right God, to suffer eternity of torment in burning fire. What a miracle worker your God is

Haha suckas never found Jesus!

Don't expect any of the religious to respond to you; ignorance is bliss after all.

I don't pretend to be able to answer for God but you may want to check out the following video: www.dailymotion.com...

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: EunuchornI will pray for their ignorance, maybe God will take care of it, I imagine he'll just let a few more innocent children die instead

Your bitterness and resentment towards God not only shows you believe in him but that you hate him. You can argue this all you like and say that you are arguing in the hypothetical case that there is a God etc etc, but its clear to see with you as with many others on this site!

a reply to: TechUnique your right I'm not big fans of psychopaths I'd rather avoid them

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: TechUnique your right I'm not big fans of psychopaths I'd rather avoid them

Well unfortunately there is no 'avoiding God' ultimately. You will have to explain yourself and you will be held accountable for your actions in this life. Not trying to scare you, just giving you the truth.

a reply to: TechUniquewill I have to explain myself Zeus and Thor too? What about Allah or the multitude of Hindu gods?

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: TechUniquewill I have to explain myself Zeus and Thor too? What about Allah or the multitude of Hindu gods?

They're deceptions. False doctrines of Demons. I'm sure you will say 'What's stopping Jesus being a false blah blah' but I'd disagree.

a reply to: TechUnique I guess I'll go to hell then with the billions of others your miracle performing all loving God Likes to send people to suffer eternity in flames

a reply to: deadeyedick

just look at busters post before yours.

it is part of that programming.

Here is what he said:

So God would rather side with those who are for greed and power than to side with a innocent child?

You actually think that the majority of this world would rather a small group of people to get whatever they want and control everything and ignore the starving on this planet?

Sorry, dick, but I don't see anything wrong with what buster said.
He is (unless I am mistaken, in which case I encourage him to set me straight) AGAINST a small group of people getting whatever they want and controlling everything. Which is what we will have if the God-peeps get into power. If self-styled "Christians" get control.

Just like we have now with the Allah-peeps.
Honestly.
Do you not see that they BOTH want war?

NEITHER of them care about those starving children......
cowboy up, and watch this:



This is how MOST of the world's people feel - Christian or not.
Please stop trying to divert our attention from what matters.

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Grimpachi

45-year-old male was winter swimming in icy water. When trying to swim from one hole in the ice to another he got disoriented and was caught under the ice. He was brought up by rescuedivers after approximately 20 minutes. He was pulseless with an initial rhythm of asystole. Endotracheal intubation was performed on the site, and he was transported to hospital with ongoing manual chest compressions and ventilation. Epinephrine 4 mg and atropine 3 mg was administered en route to the hospital. End-tidal carbon dioxide (EtCO2) was between 1.6 and 6 kPa. Upon arrival at the emergency department (ED), approximately 70 minutes after the accident, he was still in cardiac arrest with asystole, and mechanical chest compressions were started (LUCAS, Jolife AB, Lund, Sweden). EtCO2 was 3,0 kPa. Initial bladder temperature was 32,2°C. He had a profound combined metabolic and respiratory acidosis with a pH of 6.47, S-potassium was 3,9 mMol/L. Mechanical chest-compressions were continued until extracorporeal circulation (ECC) was established approximately 110 min after the accident. Approximately 190 min after the accident a central temperature of 34°C was reached; spontaneous cardiac activity was established initially as nodal rythme and then sinus rythme. Further rewarming was withheld. A bronchoscopy preformed during ECC showed signs of pulmonary edema. ECC was discontinued and he was transferred to the intensive care unit where he received further fluid resuscitation and inotropic support. Mild hypothermia was continued for 24 hours after which he was rewarmed to normothermia. He remained stable and was gradually weaned from mechanical ventilation. www.hindawi.com...

There are many cases of people surviving after drowning in cold waters much longer than that boy in fact it is well known that hypothermia slows the heart to the extent that in some cases it is medically induced for surgery patients.

But what about brain recovery and function? Usually, in most, if not ALL cases they are at least partially brain damaged/dead.

Feel free to prove me wrong as I'm just going from recollection.

Absolutely, The longer someone is deprived of oxygen the higher the risk for brain injury. Every minute counts in such situations. The kid in the video was without resuscitation for 15 minutes the example above the guy was under for 20 minutes in both cases CPR was or a form of was used when they were brought up.

The most important factor is the time between asphyxiation and the administration of CPR.

There is a procedure where they cycle oxygenated blood through a machine while performing heart surgery. The heart is stopped at that time. Medically there is no mystery to this.

a reply to: Grimpachi

So you agree that his fast brain recovery which was 'Shocking doctors' or 'Amazing doctors' can't remember which one, is worth noting as unusual?

originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: Grimpachi

So you agree that his fast brain recovery which was 'Shocking doctors' or 'Amazing doctors' can't remember which one, is worth noting as unusual?

is 'unusual' another synonym for 'miraculous' or 'divine intervention' these days?

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: TechUnique your right I'm not big fans of psychopaths I'd rather avoid them

Well unfortunately there is no 'avoiding God' ultimately. You will have to explain yourself and you will be held accountable for your actions in this life. Not trying to scare you, just giving you the truth.

I have zero fear of being judged for my actions in this life by anyone or anything.

ps. Not believing a long term conditioned Faith isn't an action.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: Grimpachi

So you agree that his fast brain recovery which was 'Shocking doctors' or 'Amazing doctors' can't remember which one, is worth noting as unusual?

is 'unusual' another synonym for 'miraculous' or 'divine intervention' these days?

I see it as more than unusual but I'm trying to get one of you guys to admit that this is definitely not a run of the mill resuscitation, even for cold water resus standards, so to speak.

Ah, the old "Low odds of success equals miracle" claim. I wonder, OP do you think winning the lottery is a miracle too?

a reply to: TechUnique

I'm trying to get one of you guys to admit that this is definitely not a run of the mill resuscitation, even for cold water resus standards, so to speak.

Did you not see my post about our cat?

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: Grimpachi

So you agree that his fast brain recovery which was 'Shocking doctors' or 'Amazing doctors' can't remember which one, is worth noting as unusual?

is 'unusual' another synonym for 'miraculous' or 'divine intervention' these days?

I see it as more than unusual but I'm trying to get one of you guys to admit that this is definitely not a run of the mill resuscitation, even for cold water resus standards, so to speak.

Provide us with every recorded case in every country of the world & I'm sure we can make some determinations on how truly run of the mill it may or may not be.

What exactly are you basing your premise that this isn't run of the mill off of?

originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: Grimpachi

So you agree that his fast brain recovery which was 'Shocking doctors' or 'Amazing doctors' can't remember which one, is worth noting as unusual?

Unusual???? I am not sure I could label it as such.

Here is one that is unusual that happened without hypothermic benefits.

Man survived without oxygen for 25 minutes thanks to controversial rescue

Guy was older in normal temp waters without oxygen 10 minutes longer than the kid and suffered no brain damage.