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This realization helped me to step out of the relationship box. Alot of the traditional notions about how we should have relationships are a load of poop anyway. I'm content to be here now as this real person. Any woman who should choose to interact with me is free to do so at any time. We can decide how we choose to relate, not some monstrous mass media construction.
originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: engineercutout
Oh! I see what your problem is. Many dudes have at least some of that, I myself had to try and remove that from my system and mind long ago. But basically what the problem is here is that you believe the things women say, are the things they believe, or the things they would do. Which in 99% of cases is never true, in fact what they believe and what they say and what they do are all completely different things.
Basically even your mother lied to you, only she did not know it, because she never took the time to think about it beyond the facts that she liked hearing. And well women are practiced at seeing and hearing only the things they want to.
First of all nice guys finish last, that is a fact and it has been proven...
You should never take the thinks on television or in books as true or real. In fact its quite the opposite, most things in those mediums are there because there not true, its basically honey for the bears, they are there because they are a sales pitch. Even if they somehow happened like they did in the movies, lets say like in the movies, the guy goes through all that, jumps the hoops for some woman...
Though most guys find that out when there 12, I really dont know why it took you so long. And also the things most females have in there minds are just that, and should never be considered as anything but that. Chances are if like you said try to be everything you have been thought and have been shown even by your sister or mom or other women have said they want. Well! The fact is that most of that is basically just theories they had in there heads...
originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: galadofwarthethird
What do I think?
I think you are probably a boring person that isn't very attractive that is upset that women don't find you interesting enough to want to do anything with so you lash out at them, just like a good majority of these "nice guys finish last" adherents.
They cry about women and make up excuses for their own shortcomings and act like women owe them something simply for being a "nice guy". It's a rather pathetic mindset.
These are all things of my past, though. I guess it went away for me when I stopped giving power to those ideas. I do just fine. That stuff did mess with my head for awhile, though. I felt it was important to share my own experiences here, as it does directly pertain to the subject matter. Perhaps someone will glean some wisdom from our exchange.
As for this whole "your plan is never gonna work you gotta do this" thing(Im paraphrasing here), no, I don't. I can do whatever I want. Seems to work just fine for me. I have little trouble relating to women now that I'm not so worried about people thinking I'm a bad man or whatever. They can think what they want. You can't please everyone. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with me. Except that I'm an ass, of course. Other than that unfortunate affliction I'm alright.
originally posted by: Tatanka
a reply to: Puppylove
I do think that a lot of women have unrealistic expectations of men and do treat them like they are their wallet. They expect that with marriage comes all of their princess dreams come true, and expect their husbands to fulfill those wishes, but life happens.... and wishes go unfulfilled. To the princesses, I say..... grow up. If you honestly want that big diamond necklace, earn it for yourself, but don't beat your husband down because he may never be able to get it for you.
I guess i see things differently. But some women do put a lot of pressure on men.... and when they don't get want they want, they can be hellions.
I think you are probably a boring person that isn't very attractive that is upset that women don't find you interesting enough to want to do anything with so you lash out at them, just like a good majority of these "nice guys finish last" adherents.
They cry about women and make up excuses for their own shortcomings and act like women owe them something simply for being a "nice guy". It's a rather pathetic mindset.