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originally posted by: satsanga
a reply to: TheJourney
Would you consider scientology occult? Scientologists don't, but other main stream religions do.
If you believe in spiritualism then you believe in God, Satan, demons, angels (fallen angels) (good versus evil) (Light versus dark) etc....
originally posted by: Tangerine
a reply to: TheJourney
What attracted you to Crowley? It might help to determine whether the occult is likely a dead-end mind trap for you if we know what you were seeking and what attracted you to that particular avenue of the occult.
originally posted by: crowdedskies
a reply to: TheJourney
Thus, when most people embark on the study of the Occult they fail to realise (or are not told) that most of the exercises and techniques are meant to free them from the one-sidedness. Instead they see the exercises as a means to quickly acquire magical power. Then they get disappointed or frustrated.
originally posted by: TheJourney
originally posted by: Tangerine
a reply to: TheJourney
What attracted you to Crowley? It might help to determine whether the occult is likely a dead-end mind trap for you if we know what you were seeking and what attracted you to that particular avenue of the occult.
Well, it started with an intense interest in Timothy Leary, and a real belief and appreciation of his philosophy. He often compared himself with Crowley, stating a certain affinity, even saying he was the re-incarnation of Crowley, though probably not literally. But, I couldn't not look into Crowley given all that. And then, I just really, for one reason or another, liked and was interested the idea of reality consisting of the interplay of certain elements, and the affinity of all things through these elements. And that kept me coming back. And then just through the reading, various things I had found to be true or ways of thinking philosophically/spiritually kept appearing in his writings. He wouldn't often write about these things in-depth, but he would mentioned them, as if they were an assumed context or underlying truths. And I agreed with these notions, which were consistent with Eastern Philosophy, and various other esoteric ideas.
Occult...Anything that has nothing to do with Jesus.
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden". In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable", usually referred to as science.