America's future is bleak

One of my own frustrations growing up was what do I want or what will I do . The fact was that I didn't have the mental tools to figure out my own destiny . I was not equipped properly in school but was going through a indoctrination process by memorizing useless information that was at best ,half truths . I came to the conclusion at the time to just leave and go work . Strong back weak mind and I was making money that was what every one else was doing also .

Had I been given a different type of education ,I am not sure where and how my life would have went ,but I am quite sure I would not have made the decisions I did and would have been better equipped to make better choices . That pod-cast has some very keen points that are true and very valuable for individuals to free their mind from the machine and not fall prey to tptb who want us to be controlled and taken advantage of . But they need us to not think our way out of the system .

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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Now the important thing is not whether John Titor is an actual time travaler or a hoax but his message.

Distopic stories are not all that rare in fiction.
en.wikipedia.org...

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Revolutions lead by folks with nothing left to lose doesn't sound good.

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If you look at John Titor's message he seems to predict a lot of things that we are seeing now. Like how our Government is becoming increasingly corrupt.

Here's an example

While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you,

And yes already in the headlines we are are seeing multiple violations of the Constitution.

I'm not a Titor believer in fact I actually thought he was a nutter due to some inaccuracies but still his messages is what disturbs me.

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I don't agree with all your posts, but you've nailed it on most points in this one.

I work for one of the most successful corporations in the world, and have been told point blank by several higher ups that successful upward momentum is based on networking, and not job performance itself.

I think the Ron Paul occurrences speak well enough to the truth of your views on politics.

Systems are broken, and I don't see a recovery without complete collapse and rebuilding first. I've gotten to the point where I honestly hope it comes sooner rather than later. Just take the damned medicine already and let the healing begin.

If you look at his research he seems to predict a lot of things that we are seeing now.

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It isn't research. It's stories.
Stories based on human nature. Science fiction does that very well. Good science fiction, I mean.

And yes already in the headlines we are are seeing multiple violations of the Constitution.

Maybe. Or is it different interpretations? You know, people 100 years ago were complaining about violations of the Constitution too. Here's an example of what was once "constitutional."

Until the mid-twentieth century, Plessy v. Ferguson gave a "constitutional nod" to racial segregation in public places, foreclosing legal challenges against increasingly-segregated institutions throughout the South. The railcars in Plessy notwithstanding, the black facilities in these institutions were decidedly inferior to white ones, creating a kind of racial caste society.

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originally posted by: RedmoonMWC

originally posted by: southtower
Hey OP. 1 word. Revolution.

You say Revolution, ok but, what are the targets?

Naturally, a revolution would regress to rioting, arson on corporations, street warfare and plundering the super rich.

Sure beats sitting at home watching TV

S&F. I agree. I have seen a big decline in community over the last fifty years. It seems like someone is purposely instigating us to be uncivil lately. They want us arguing amongst each other. We are getting so hooked on possessing material things in this society that it is going to cause major problems. Keeping up with the Jones was supposed to be a bad thing in the past, now it seems that it is acceptable. As long as you spend more than you earn you are accepted with open arms.

We have a mess here, the Devil has led us to believe a lie. What is the devil in this society? Is it making our economy look better that is causing the problem? Is it a competition to look better than other that causes this? Either way, our ancestors tried to tell us to not do this in a book I have read. One that is thousands of years old. We never learn from our mistakes, even the information contained in this book is twisted by those who desire to profit off of us.

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I think the problem is a serious lack of empathy or connection to the family and community.

Biggest problem.

When we learn to care about one another all the other problems seem to disappear.

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When we learn to care about one another all the other problems seem to disappear.

Not really. Problems don't tend to just go away.
But it does lead to more effective ways of working to lessen them.

originally posted by: southtower
Hey OP. 1 word. Revolution.

I got one word and its EVOLUTION thats what turns things around for the USA, the society has become so us vs them its now destined to go the route of the USSR and break up into smaller pieces. Americans are stuck in the US vs them mindset and that will lead to breaking up into a more us vs them society, we see this happineng on all fronts. Only unity out of love not fear will set the country or any other on the path of a singularity.

The solutions are community councils of citizens in every town, and actually making everyone a family, within reason, obviously avoiding those who are a threat to life and liberty. But, people need to pass the hat and start taking turns and starting up businesses, and signing up to buy from each other and only those with integrity. Take back the power, take back the cottage industries that got given overseas.

Example, the fake fur that is gorgeous and so called ethical and angorra rabbit fleece, is not even going strong anymore locally. Its CHINA and they are horrendously abusing animals and their fake furs are not quite fake, but involve animals.

So, thats one example that I notice, as I was a spinner for years and like the faux furs but can't buy any to sew a vest, because I will not buy anything that is from China or abusing animals.

There are so many businesses that need to be taken back.

And people that need to pledge to only buy from each other and not ever spend money in any of the big corporations again.

That ends the recession. Small businesses always employed the most people and if enough people have them, there is a larger middle and upper middle class, and the top has to tighten its belt. In fact, you guys should bending over backwards to do them out of business.

Do Rockerfeller and Rotchsild's out of business.

And stop paying any tithes to any churches for that racket and slavery over humanity, when the world would have been equalized hundreds if not thousands of years ago, its over man. Stop being used like that and take the wealth back.

Media is bought and paid for, start real papers, not just online, and make them alternative and make them include local researchers, ie media students, native groups, let them do the wake up research.

Local radio stations.

Get rid of the crapola by really focusing on abundance and solutions locally and regionally and pledging to stand up for each other.

Otherwise, not sure it matters at all. If the majority of people truly do not care, they're not going to like the next steps too much, but it will be a tough lesson.

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Well lets see hear, ever since Reagan, we have had Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush,Bush, Obama,Obama, and what will we have in 2016, probably Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, wow alot of socialist, moderate view points and that's it.

If this keeps going on the states will detiorate, the U.S. government will deteriorate, taxes will keep going up, spending will go up, regulations, inflation, 5 dollar a gallon gas, is there anyone home on the Republican to realize we can't keep going down this stupid road. It is only a matter of time before the economy goes way south like that of 1979. Dams will break, terrorist will attack us again, the military will go nuts. New York will go bankrupt followed by Chicago, Miami, Seattle.

Iran will go nuclear. Further pushing up gas prices and creating a energy crisis, presidents will go back to the printing press sometimes further pushing up on everything in the private sector.

A police state, will start developing.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: rickymouse

I think the problem is a serious lack of empathy or connection to the family and community.

Biggest problem.

When we learn to care about one another all the other problems seem to disappear.

The psychopath is looked upon with favour nowadays, as a matter of fact some large corporations actively seek psychopaths to install to the highest rungs of the ladder.
Because they don't care about nothing but themselves making money and not care who they stand on or destroy.

And how many non-psychopaths as part of their employment have to fake not caring? It's like caring about ones fellow man is the trait of the weak in the world of business.

originally posted by: Unity_99
Example, the fake fur that is gorgeous and so called ethical and angorra rabbit fleece, is not even going strong anymore locally. Its CHINA and they are horrendously abusing animals and their fake furs are not quite fake, but involve animals.

So, thats one example that I notice, as I was a spinner for years and like the faux furs but can't buy any to sew a vest, because I will not buy anything that is from China or abusing animals.

Those little fuzzy mice you can buy at the dollar store for your cat, the fur on them is probably....Cat Fur.
I don't buy those.
Hate it when I do not know what I am buying.

originally posted by: southtower

originally posted by: RedmoonMWC

originally posted by: southtower
Hey OP. 1 word. Revolution.

You say Revolution, ok but, what are the targets?

Naturally, a revolution would regress to rioting, arson on corporations, street warfare and plundering the super rich.

Sure beats sitting at home watching TV

You cant even unplug your own TV and talk about arson on corporations? And Super Rich....right....like what your neighbors garage?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: rickymouse

I think the problem is a serious lack of empathy or connection to the family and community.

Biggest problem.

When we learn to care about one another all the other problems seem to disappear.

You are right about this. We should work together as a community instead of trying to show up others or cut down others. Everyone makes mistakes yet most people want to blame things on everyone else. If you believe a lie, get over it and get smarter so next time it won't happen. How can we learn from our mistakes if we keep blaming others.

We have to take the power away from the deceivers. The problem is they run this place. They have structured laws to protect themselves.

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You have to wonder which is more dangerous. Growing animals to make real fur or the whole process and pollutants caused by artificial fur. Unnatural chemistry is not good either, it disrupts the ecosystem and causes harm to many animals.

The fact is that we should be making things to last and not rebuying new every year or two. This consumerism tactic is not good. I have real leather choppers that I have had for years. The newer ones I bought fell apart. Cows die for use as our food, to waste the leather would be a sin. If rabbits are used for food, their skins should be utilized. The same with feathers.

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There are lots of ways of making very beautiful faux furs, in cottage industries, that should be local and supported by patrons instead of the China products. For example, it has to do with weaving, something else I liked, and using angora from rabbits. I was on a search for how to make my own faux fur and it turned out that the angora industry that was mostly shut down in the West and Britain and handed to China, which treats these rabbits really inhumanely, is a big part of creating lovely faux's. One doesnt have to club baby seals to death or trap fox's or use harsh chemicals. Its the big industrial way of doing it, that is at fault. There are alternatives and people need to start voting with their dollars.

Its not up to government to support bringing back cottage industries, and they don't want to, have a thread about that. Its up to people to start those businesses again, and have others aware and pledging to only buy from their own, and ethical ones at that.

We've always had that power. For some reason people just stopped supporting the local businesses. Time to get some going again.

Creativity is also cool when it comes to what I call crafting and textiles. For example, to me, I could see faux fur as a combination of fibre, ie sheep and angorra rabbits, and soya silk or hemp, or something more green.

I admit, with the recent amnesty of some 11 million illegals that were here in an unregistered way for 5 or more years...

and the rumored additional 30 other million illegals who were coaxed by the WH to 'get a piece of the pie'...

that the future seems dire as more and more regulations will be imposed to help mend the damage that Obama is doing to the fabric of society/business/military by radically forcing a change in the demographics of the 'Homeland'...
I say 'homeland' because we have become Statist and no longer (US) Americans...


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