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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Also this isnt nonsense this is a conversation on ancient psychic superpowers lets keep it that way.
originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
So when you become smaller than an atom what is your body made up of?
First you would have to answer; what is an atom? Solid? Waves? Both? No one really knows. Until you know what an atom is we cannot discuss if it is possible to shrink atoms or not.
-MM
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Also this isnt nonsense this is a conversation on ancient psychic superpowers lets keep it that way.
When you bring in PHYSICAL impossibilities it is no longer psychic. I responded to the thread, I did not bring anything in that was not said. If you don't like things being debunked then do not bring in easily debunked ideas.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Great way to dismiss ideas that contradict what you want to believe.
2. Mahima:
Ability to assume a gigantic form ('Becoming larger than the largest' as described in Srimad Bhagavatam by Lord Krishna)
Example:
Hanuman assumed a huge form to burn Lanka, he also assumed big form to fight Kumbha Karna
In Vaamana avatar Lord Vishnu increased his form which was so gigantic that it only took him three steps to cover all three worlds
While Ravana proved to be aggressive and arrogant in nature during his youth, he was also an exemplary scholar. Under Vishrava's tutelage, Ravana mastered the Vedas and the holy books and also the arts. Sumali, his grandfather, worked hard in secret to ensure that he retained the ethics of the Daityas. Ravana was also devoted to the Hindu god Brahma. Following his initial training, he performed an intense penance lasting several thousand years to Lord Brahma. Pleased with his austere penance, Brahma offered Ravana a boon. Ravana asked for immortality, a request which Brahma refused. Ravana then asked for absolute invulnerability and supremacy before the gods and heavenly spirits, as well as the demons, serpents, and wild beasts. Contemptuous of mortal beings, Ravana did not ask for protection from humans. Brahma granted him these boons, and also provided him with great strength by way of sorcery and knowledge of divine weapons.
ConquestsAfter winning these boons, Ravana sought out his grandfather Sumali and assumed leadership over his army. He then set his sights upon Lanka, an idyllic island society created by the celestial architect Vishwakarma for Kubera, the treasurer of the Gods. Kubera was also the son of Vishrava, and had generously shared all that he owned with Kaikesi's children. Ravana, however, demanded Lanka in it's entirety from him, threatening to take it by force. Vishrava advised Kubera to give up the island to Ravana, who was now virtually invincible. Although Ravana initially took Lanka by force, he was nevertheless regarded as a benevolent and effective ruler since life on the island flourished under his rule.
Ravana lifting mount Kailash - Ellora Caves, MaharashtraFollowing his conquest of Lanka, Ravana encountered Lord Shiva at his abode upon Mount Kailash. Unknowingly, Ravana attempted to uproot and move the mountain on a whim. Shiva, annoyed by Ravana's arrogance, pressed his smallest toe on Kailash, pinning Ravana firmly underneath. Once Ravana was informed of whom he had crossed, he became penitent. For several years he sang songs praising Shiva, until the destroyer god released him from his bondage. Pleased with his bravery and devotion, Shiva granted Ravana further strength, awarding him the Chandrahas (or "Moon-blade"), an immensely powerful sword. Ravana in turn became a lifelong devotee of Lord Shiva. It is also during this incident that Ravana officially acquired his name, which was given to him by Shiva and means "(He) Of the terrifying roar," referring to the fact that the earth is said to have quaked with Ravana's cry of pain when the mountain was pinned upon him.
Ravana's abilities were by now truly awe-inspiring, and so he set out confidently on a series of campaigns to conquer human and celestial beings alike. After vanquishing several kingdoms of the human world, he performed the suitable sacrifices and was crowned emperor. Kubera at one point chastised Ravana for his cruelty and greed, to which Ravana responded by invading the heavens and defeating the devas, singling out his half-brother Kubera for particular humiliation. By the time of the Ramayana, several hundred years later, Ravana is shown as dominating all human and divine races, to the extent that he can dictate when the sun rises and sets.
Ravana's sister Surpanakha attempted to seduce Rama and Lakshmana while they were stationed here. The two brothers resisted her temptations, and mutilated her as punishment for her actions. When Surpanakha reported this to Ravana, a plan for revenge hatched in his mind. He sent to the forest a rakshasa disguised as a golden deer. Upon seeing the deer, both Rama and Lakshmana were lead off in its pursuit, while Sita stayed behind at the ashram unprotected. At this point, Ravana crept up on a vulnerable Sita and kidnapped her. The discovery of Sita's absence prompted Rama and Lakshmana to partake on a hazardous search to find her. Sita remained under the captivity of Ravana for one year, all the while protecting her chastity at all costs, completely unwavering in her resolve despite Ravana's courting, cajoling, and assorted threats.
Defeat at the Hands of Rama
Ramayana frescoAfter overcoming numerous arduous challenges, Rama entered into Lanka in order to confront Ravana and rescue his wife. Rama offered Ravana a final chance to make peace, suggesting that he immediately return Sita and apologize to both him and his wife. As a minister and brother of Ravana, Vibhishana also advised Ravana to return the kidnapped Sita. However, Ravana rejected these attempts to avoid battle, going so far as to banish his brother from his kingdom. Vibhishana immediately sought protection from Sri Rama, which was granted without hesitation, allowing him to become a great devotee of Rama; in turn, Rama was assisted by Vibhishana, whose knowledge of Ravana's proficiency with black magic and mystical weapons allowed Rama to gain a strategic advantage in the ensuing battle. On the battlefield, Rama slew the most powerful rakshasa commanders, along with hundreds of thousands of rakshasa soldiers, aided by the Vanaras, a race of monkey-men who fought alongside him. In an attempt to create divisions in Rama's ranks, Ravana convinced the Vanaras that Rama considered them to be no more than lowly, expendable animals. However, the faithful monkeys dismissed Ravana's claims and continued to fight.
With his rakshasas neutralized, Ravana was forced to square off against Rama. In their initial battle, Ravana was severely injured, and his chariot and weapons were destroyed. Due to this injury, Rama allowed Ravana to live and return to fight another day. In their next meeting, Ravana unleashed the full extent of his magical abilities while making full use of the boons given to him by Shiva and Brahma. After a drawn-out battle, Rama successfully decapitated Ravana's central head, but another promptly arose in its place. Rama went on to decapitate this head, only to find yet another growing in its place. This re-growth occurred because of a vessel of amrit, the nectar of immortality, which Ravana had stored in his stomach. This cycle of decapitation and regeneration continued on until twilight, when Ravana's magical powers became even more pronounced. At this point, Vibhishana informed Rama of why Ravana's heads were regenerating. Rama then invoked the brahmastra, a weapon of mass destruction, and fired the great arrow into Ravana's midsection, destroying the cache of amrit. With the amrit no longer in effect, Ravana met his demise and Sita was freed.
originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Lokas are not planets, they're realms.
The Patalas for example are lower realms, certainly not planets, this is the case in Buddhism too.
originally posted by: HeyAmigo
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
psychic power is a great dream to wonder about to have a psychic power gives no physical pleasure nor can be felt much like the tick in the brain that meters out your heartbeat it doesnt taste like candy
originally posted by: micpsi
Before some of you dismiss yogic paranormal faculties with your usual ignorance and ideological prejudice, you should consider the following (that's if you can remove your blinkers for a day or two):
1. Bound states of basic subatomic particles remote-viewed over a century ago with the ancient yogic siddhi of anima compared with string models of subatomic particles published in peer-reviewed journals of theoretical physics and in high-energy physics conference journals:
smphillips.8m.com...
2. Populations of paranormally oberved basic particles (identified as subquarks making up the quarks in the protons and neutrons of atomic nuclei) compared with the mass numbers of the most abundant nuclide of each element whose atoms were claimed to be remote-viewed between 1895 and 1908:
smphillips.8m.com...
(mass numbers of nuclides were not even conceived when the remote-viewing was carried out, yet the correlation beween mass numbers and paranormally derived numbers of particles in nuclei is statistically significant).
3. Anticipations of scientific discoveries in atomic and nuclear physics made with anima many years before this knowledge became available:
smphillips.8m.com...
4. Discussion of all the history and issues behind a sustained application of a yogic siddhi to investigate the atomic world:
smphillips.8m.com...
5. Scientific analysis of observations made over a century ago with anima (free PDF download of book):
smphillips.8m.com...
(Three other publications describing this research in great detail are available from this website).
6. Hard, mathematical evidence that the Gosset polytope, known by mathematicians to determine the roots of the exceptional Lie group E8 central to heterotic superstring theory, embodies the structural parameters of the superstring observed with anima a century ago:
smphillips.8m.com...
7. Overwhelming evidence that reported features of the remote-viewed constituents of atomic nuclei conform to the universal patterns exhibited by sacred geometries of the world's religions:
smphillips.8m.com...
This work has been endorsed both publicly and privately by certain Fellows of the Royal Society, several Nobel Prize winners in physics, past presidents of the London Society for Psychical Research and by internationally known parapsychologists like Dean Radin and Hal Puthoff. You will find on the website linked to here stronger evidence for the existence of a certain type of ESP than you will encounter anywhere else. This is because no conventional explanation of the sort used by sceptics of the paranormal (e.g., chance or cheating) exists in the historical context of these investigations. Of course, you can continue to ignore such irrefutable evidence if you judge that it threatens your cosy, narrow world-view that allows only things to exist that can be explained by established scientific facts and ideas. But why not, for once, give truth a chance rather than simply what you would like to believe?
Vishnu Purana tells of a visit by the divine wandering sage Narada to Patala. Narada describes Patala as more beautiful than Svarga (heaven). Patala is described as filled with splendid jewels, beautiful groves and lakes and lovely demon maidens. Sweet fragrance is in the air and is fused with sweet music. The soil here is white, black, purple, sandy, yellow, stony and also of gold.
The Bhagavata Purana calls the seven lower regions bila-svargas ("subterranean heavens") and they are regarded as planets or planetary systems below the earth. These regions are described as being more opulent than the upper regions of the universe, which include heaven.
When a man enters Atala, these women enchant him and serve him an intoxicating cannabis drink that induces sexual energy in the man. Then, these women enjoy sexual play with the traveller, who feels to be stronger than ten thousand elephants and forgets impending death.
originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I was gonna add this earlier but didn't for some reason, you are actually right, in some places they do seem to describe some of these realms as planets.
But I think that is mainly in Hinduism, while Buddhism from what I know describe them as planes/realms, some of which intersect, the animal kingdom for example would be considered a world but only in the way that it's percieved differently by animals than by humans.
What I find interesting is the description of the Patalas, they're described as even more beautiful than the heavens.
Vishnu Purana tells of a visit by the divine wandering sage Narada to Patala. Narada describes Patala as more beautiful than Svarga (heaven). Patala is described as filled with splendid jewels, beautiful groves and lakes and lovely demon maidens. Sweet fragrance is in the air and is fused with sweet music. The soil here is white, black, purple, sandy, yellow, stony and also of gold.
The Bhagavata Purana calls the seven lower regions bila-svargas ("subterranean heavens") and they are regarded as planets or planetary systems below the earth. These regions are described as being more opulent than the upper regions of the universe, which include heaven.
This is my favorite, and my kind of place:
When a man enters Atala, these women enchant him and serve him an intoxicating cannabis drink that induces sexual energy in the man. Then, these women enjoy sexual play with the traveller, who feels to be stronger than ten thousand elephants and forgets impending death.
Though I don't know if it's supposed to be implied that this impending death is the work of these women. In that case the place seems rather treacherous, though, from the general descriptions none of the Patalas seem to be places of evil.
On a side note, Nagas are said to live in one or more of the Patalas, and they're essentially humanoid reptilians. What if the abduction literature is right?
Maybe a little bit off-topic, but it's interesting stuff.
And, great stuff micpsi. I've visited that site before but the science is way over my head, I have had it bookmarked for years, maybe I'll delve into it seriously some day. Nonetheless, it's very impressive.
originally posted by: my1percent
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Very interesting , having asked about one of these before , here on ats. I will try to find the post I did.
This is good information.
I have had varying degrees of 3 of these states of being.
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I have had an experience like the first mentioned , sitting on a lounge chair, everything , furniture , room , myself , became small , shrunk , it did not last long, just maybe a sensation?
When I was young, I had had enough at one stage, and went to bed one night and willed myself to die and the room spun and off I went and a woman/angel came and sent me back , I have been angry about that at times. sorry to make it short and sweet but it was quite an experience and one I have never forgot.
In a way it does not qualify as I had to come back.
The other one is much stranger as it involved other people who both reacted strongly , so I did not imagine it. And have asked about it on here in the hope that someone could tell what was going on , this is the first info I have seen .
That was something I feel i had no conscious control over.
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