Ebola patient is in NY

a reply to: Anyafaj
That sounds about right. She's offered but no takers so far were her blood type.

a reply to: dianajune

I can't imagine if it breaks out in N.Y city that would be a very bad nightmare scenario and hate to say it kiss your butt goodbye as well as me and the rest of the states there will be no way to contain it.
My conspiracy self tells me this was pre planned a long time ago....I really hope I'm wrong
Take care... I also have family there.

originally posted by: texasgirl
I missed the press conference update on the NYC Ebola patient but I saw on Fox News ticker at the bottom that states Andrew Cuomo, the governor, said the doctor had a fever of 100.3, NOT 103!! What?!! Seriously?!

This reeks of cover-up!

It gets better. As of 5 o'clock, it was now 101.3. I'm thinking not everyone is getting the party line. (This was per FoxNews, BTW) I'm curious as to what the temp will be by midnight? 99.3? *eye roll*

a reply to: nukedog

We have all been wondering about Pham's BF. Last heard, he was in quarantine at the hospital in Dallas.

GF of the doctor has been tested and is in quarantine. Anyone hear how her test came out?

Why the silence?

The old saying "no news is good news" doesn't apply to Ebola.

a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

No I think it could be much much worse.

The population density of Papa New Guinea is between 3-60 per square mile
en.m.wikipedia.org...
The Population Density of New York state is 417 psm.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
New York City comes in at 27,788.2
en.m.wikipedia.org...

No matter how much more "advanced" our healthcare system is I doubt it could handle a massive epidemic in stride without a massive loss of life.

a reply to: Bicent76

I happen to think Val is right on target with each point.

For as ill as he is reported as being, he's been awfully active in an extremely densely populated city while incubating and expressing Ebola.

Got that?

Ebola.

It's not the flu, HIV, TB, the measles, or any other of a hundred bugs that kill us.

It's Ebola.

Dallas had me at the edge of my seat because it's within hours drive of me, I had cruise ship passengers from the Magic in the restaurant I help manage.

But this has me standing up and about as alert as can be.

If your level of concern about this hasn't been raised, at least a little, you really don't know enough about this disease especially the most recent strains.

But then, it's only Ebola.

originally posted by: nukedog
Plasma is pretty much universal and wouldn't that work as well? That seems dumb

They don't appear to be at the plasma stage yet.

Study to Look at Blood Products From Ebola Survivors as Treatment

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: dianajune

So he's an Ebola hipster? LOL!

Is it true that he first told authorities that he self-quarantined and it was later discovered that he did not?

This appears to be the case:

The Harlem doctor who was rushed to a hospital Thursday with suspected Ebola symptoms had gone bowling in Brooklyn the night before. Craig Spencer, who recently returned from disease-wracked West African country Guinea, hit the lanes in Williamsburg and used Uber taxis to get around, sources said. The shocking revelation that Spencer was roaming around town — after first telling authorities he self-quarantined himself — emerged after the 33-year-old medic was hauled off to Bellevue Hospital in a protective suit with symptoms of the deadly disease.

www.nydailynews.com...

This is unbelievable. I don't know what else to say.

I heard on npr today he took the subway as well

a reply to: Anyafaj

And a quick question, how do we know his temperature with updates on a consistent basis? Arent HIPPA laws in place that would stop this from happening? Not that I have a problem with it, I think we as a public seserve to know.

originally posted by: RoyalBlue

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Still wondering if they're 1.) going to move him and 2.) getting Brantly blood.

If he's as sick as that one nurse reported as saying, how late is too late for blood plasma measures? Honestly curious? I wonder if the WHO even knows. I'm sure they'll try it anyway. And poor Brantly, he's given so much blood at this point, by the time the year is over, he'll be recognized as the biggest donor of the year by the Red Cross! I'm almost hoping Doctor Idiot isn't Brantly's blood type, but maybe Nurse Whitehall(?)'s to give poor Brantly a break! Every time you see him in the media he looks like a pale, gaunt ghost! Give the man time to get over Ebola for crying out loud! It's not like the flu where you're up and about and flush the next week. (or is it???)

I have to wonder is it REALLY Dr. Brantly 's blood they keep receiving? I know there are limits on how often you can donate, but I don't know the details. It sure seems humanly impossible, especially since Dr. Brantly is still supposedly recovering, to give that much blood. And add to that the article I read about the 80-100 viles of proven vaccine that a Canadian company had made and was ready to go years before now, that can be assumedly be used for treatment also. What did all the patients EXCEPT Duncan really receive ?

I think I'm more scared of the cover-up than I am of Ebola.

I was wondering the same thing, truthfully. I know there is a limit, but I'll admit ignorance to knowing what that limit is? I know he HAS to recover. I commend him as a doctor for wanting to put others first. Truly I do. But at one point do we stop putting others first and begin thinking of our own health? I ask this because this is the pot calling the kettle black. I quite a number of health issues as does my daughter. I am known for putting her issues before my own. It is not uncommon for me to ignore my issues until her own are taken care of first.

a reply to: Anyafaj

On another threat it was said that plasma could be given 2x a week with a days rest in between.

this thread so viral it's now traveling at warp 9 and I can't catch up ..

ok..hmm...anyone know how to actually SEE which flights are coming in from the infected countries? We need to get up on this for US .. since there's so much confusion ...the only way to combat this confusion is with solid data .. numbers do not lie.

web guru's ...I implore you to bring everything to this thread or start another and provide flight information ...needless to say i'm a little anxious at the moment and this is the only logical place to start ...

a reply to: TWILITE22

Two or three subway trains and an uber cab.

They haven't quite decided on the exact number yet.

a reply to: komodo

I would imagime that some of the people who were involved with the original MH370 thread would be able to help with some flighttracker software. They seemed to be very proficient at using it.

Latest from NYTimes

Friday Updates on New York's First Ebola Case

New York and New Jersey Tighten Ebola Screenings at Airports

Feeling Ebola Anxiety, From Bellvue to Brooklyn

Yes but they say in the article the quarantine period is only 21 days. Why are they still saying that that is long enough when many think its not? When there is clearly doubt, why not be overly cautious? Why be optimistic about something we know very little about when so many lives are potentially at risk?
a reply to: ~Lucidity

a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

Better than what we had though, which was nothing?

Trust me, the governors of these two states do NOT want the people on their cases.

Reuters on this...and they've already started.

UPDATE 10-Two U.S. states to quarantine health workers returning from Ebola zones

The new policy applies to medical workers returning from the region through John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York and Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey. In the first instance of the new move, a female healthcare worker who had treated patients in West Africa and arrived at the Newark, New Jersey, airport was ordered into quarantine.

originally posted by: nukedog

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Anyafaj
I believe she's offered to but as of last week was not a match for anyone.

That and I'm not sure whether she got a transfusion herself or not either (losing track). I'm thinking not.

It would seem she DID get two transfusions, but NOT survivor transfusion, just regular blood transfusions. (Probably to replace blood she was losing.) She has offered to donate blood, but has yet to match a blood type with an Ebola victim, thus far. (I did a bing search "Did Nancy Writebol donate blood".)

An interview with Nancy Writebol and Science Magazine.org

Plasma is pretty much universal and wouldn't that work as well? That seems dumb

Bragging rights, as much as I got a 4.0 in Biology and a 4.0 in blood labs, we're talking 1990 and my brain is half fried now. I'd have to have a biology book on me, reread it, retake the tests just to even remember if plasma works the same. I have severe memory issues now. Some days I'm lucky if I remember my name. I have my daughter convinced that this is why adults carry a license with photos on it, so when we forget our name, we look at our picture, see the name underneath it and go, "Oh yeah! That's who we are!" Then I was top ten of my class. Now, I can't get past 8th grade math. What happened to me????

a reply to: Bicent76

I think you read something into the questions I asked....like emotion for instance. Seriously, I'm not trolling you and I don't have any emotion toward you. The position I'm coming from with this guy is that he is NOT a lay-person. He's not even a lower-level nurse/nurse-assistant/orderly. He is a doctor who has allegedly been out of country in the hot zone treating ebola-infected patients, some of whom most likely died under his care. (I say most likely because I'm reading he was actually only out of country for 30 days or less and that raises questions about just how damned much doctoring this dude got in before he skidaddled back).

NONETHELESS, he is a physician. He has knowledge of the disease...not make believe misinformation disseminated by media, but actual working knowledge. So "fatigue" and "feeling off" doesn't get to get wrote off to he ASSUMED jet lag. I'm sorry but this guy gets no mulligans, no passes. He's a doctor.

He went to public places, used mass transit, and apparently smooched around on his fiancee, knowing he didn't feel right. So why would we assume he wouldn't do these things when he is potentially showing symptoms? He did! And no bullet has been dodged yet. None. The girlfriend is at high probability of becoming deathly ill and potential others.

So, no, I was not trying to troll you. I was trying to get you to offer to me what reasoning you based your statements on because from where I'm reasoning, they don't seem logical. That's not an attack or an emotional statement, it's me sharing my perspective with you.

a reply to: Valhall
Plus he was only there a month it appears. Check last post page 23.