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originally posted by: tavi45
At the very least there is equal blame to both the US and Russia. More likely than not the blame lies heavily on the US. Which nation has toppled more regimes since the fall of the Soviet Union? The answer to that question should give you a good idea of where blame lies.
originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: VitaArcanum
You mean those clandestine drug operations by the various agencies of the US government like the CIA? Eh we probably shouldn't wonder too much. The American government loves us like a father loves his children.
originally posted by: cprnicus
The OP makes a good point of not knowing the actual situation without being there hard to access. However depending on which side one talks to the opinions expressed will be biased toward their own. We live in a golden age for propaganda as well as one of suppression through fear. Got to keep the people afraid. What's that noise? Boo! It's an old, wrinkled, vodka smellin' commie ghost! Damn ... I knew they just went into hiding behind sudo-corporate facades. Hell, some of the latest bad guys on the big screen are right out of a Marvell comic. You couldn't market anything better. Hmmm ... market ... is not war a business?
originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: VitaArcanum
You mean those clandestine drug operations by the various agencies of the US government like the CIA? Eh we probably shouldn't wonder too much. The American government loves us like a father loves his children.
originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
Russia invaded Crimea
We all know of the eternal battle and struggle between the two power houses since the beginning of WW1 and Before it.
Does the government think we are that stupid?
Why are we so susceptible towards doing what our government wants?
Sure! Russia sent weapons to Donbass and Donetsk to help the so called Civilians to defend themselves from the National Ukrainian Military.
Also before you say there are Russian Merc's there aren't those are Russian Ex-military members who on their own will without being paid went to help the Donbass and Donetsk people.
Russia also sent aid and food to the effected regions as well..
While America and most of the EU said that sending aid to women, children and elderly in the war zone - Is a PROVOCATION of WAR?
Recently after months of Russia beating on the door of UN with the proof of Genocide in Ukraine, the UN finally admitted that YES! there is a genocide that needs to be investigated.
The OSCE which is the current leading organization in the region has recorded the shelling of Schools,Churches,Hospitals,Kindergartens and Elderly Homes by the Ukrainian National Military. While the US and EU denied such facts and - Never showed the truth?
The only two organizations that began to observe and truly try to Establish peace within the region was the OSCE and The Red Cross... These two organizations I think deserve a Nobel Peace Prize
You could also go to Kiev and see how the Nationalist who now warship Hitler and Bandera throw Ukrainian Politicians into bins for supporting the peace in Ukraine or supporting talks with Russia to find common ground. You could watch it for yourself and maybe decide to join the so called Rebels like a few Americans, Polish, Spanish, Italians and other World Civilians have.
So I leave you with this question.. Why?
originally posted by: VitaArcanum
So I leave you with this question.. Why?
Europe and the US seem to be instigating the recent events, trying to acquire the Ukraine is the reason.
originally posted by: VitaArcanum
We all know of the eternal battle and struggle between the two power houses since the beginning of WW1 and Before it.
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I stopped reading there.
Before WW I there was only one world superpower ....... The British Empire
The U.S. and Russia only achieved that status after WW IIedit on 20-10-2014 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: DJW001
If European countries were to acquire the Ukraine, they would be bound to giving them the same wages and rights as their own citizens. It is better economically to make them trade partners so that the citizens of that country work cheaper and don't have the strict regulations in the workplace as is found in their countries.