Breaking: Pope Ousts Top Vatican Judge Known For Incendiary Anti-Gay Comments

a reply to: mOjOm

They probably get off watching lesbian porn too *roll eyes*

originally posted by: Sabiduria
a reply to: mOjOm

They probably get off watching lesbian porn too *roll eyes*

Hey...a woman having sex with another woman is an abomination.








Unless there is a man there to videotape it.

a reply to: NavyDoc

I couldn't help it It's CFL time so it was on my mind, plus I just watched an episode of House M.D where they mentioned the term :p

My fiance uses puns a lot so it rubs off :p

originally posted by: Sabiduria
a reply to: NavyDoc

I couldn't help it

It's CFL time so it was on my mind, plus I just watched an episode of House M.D where they mentioned the term :p

My fiance uses puns a lot so it rubs off :p

LOL. like you. I'm often called "Dr. House" by residents due to my curmudgeonly attitude.

I am watching with interest what happens with the Catholic Church. I was hesitant about this Pope at first but he does seem to be moving things forward without wholesale trouncing on the Bible.

I went to Catholic school, but was a non-Catholic. My FAVORITE priest turned out to be a molester...I learned YEARs later. Broke my heart. Didn't break my belief that there are wonderful Catholics.

I am gay and am extremely sensitive to those that take offense at homosexuality. I have several close friends that are very fundamentalist, go to churches whose pastors RAGE in the pulpit and they actually ask for my guidance on how they might accept the sinner without accepting the sin.

Also, I have two children...most DEFINITELY straight and I am delighted. They are going to school that has a biblical tradition and will learn about being a good, accepting, service-oriented person that does cast aspersions on others. It is possible to be gay, be faithful and to embrace and adore your straight children. Just as my parents, through the help of Parent and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) helped my parents accept me. They didn't change me. I don't want to change my children. I believe they should be good, great, open, giving, serving people. Service is the rent you pay for the space you occupy.

a reply to: Losonczy

Good on you for keeping your faith while being a homosexual. I stopped being a Presbyterian when I finally admitted to myself that I was bisexual. I couldn't go to the church that I had been baptized in any more because I knew that they thought I was a sinner & I knew there were a lot of the super judgmental religious people. This one lady was known for being quiet loud about her belief in homosexuality being a sin & her son was gay. She disowned her own son, yupp that's totally what Jesus would do. *roll eyes*

For a time I just went under the label of 'Spiritual' because I needed to reexamine a lot about what I believed (as I also do not believe in the bible, it's a fictional story book full of moral like 'The Chronicles of Narnia' ) When my world view grew (being shown conspiracies & ATS) I had debates with my fiance about religion/spirituality, possible purposes of life, existence of God & the Devil, etc which shook things up even more. After looking into it, the closest thing I can find to describing my belief is Empirical Agnostic.

I think it is silly when people say "If a child is raised by gay parents, they will create gay kids" yet we have heterosexual parents having gay kids. :/ My fiance is heterosexual and I'm bi sexual so by their logic, who knows what kind of LGBTQ+ child we will have. *roll eyes* I won't care what my child's sexual preference/identity is, I still love them no matter what.

My Mom is Christian and my Dad was raised a Catholic but doesn't go to church, (he grew up in Nelson, B.C in the 60's He's quite open minded with his faith) so I was unsure of how my parents were going to react when I told them I was bisexual. When I told my Mom she smiled and said she knew I was gay ever since I was a child, she couldn't put her finger on what it was but she just knew. That was a huge relief to me, I knew my Mom had gay friends so I was hoping that it would go good. My Dad on the other hand, knew he was uncomfortable around friends once he found out they were gay. I finally worked up the courage and told my Dad, he told me he didn't care, he still loved me just as much as he always has.

I wish more people could have positive results with their parents when they come out. It's heartbreaking to hear and see some of the stuff that parents do to their own flesh and blood once they find out their child isn't heterosexual. It disgusts me that someone can so easily disown and hate their child for something that isn't dangerous. I could understand a parent disowning their child if they were a serial killer or maybe a crazy drug user but disowning over sexual preference, not acceptable.

a reply to: NavyDoc

It's the same as pedophilia, the church would except the person but not the act.

If you believe sexual orientation is genetic and you are born that way. Then, Homosexuality is not much different petophilia, except the fact more males like their same sex partners on the younger side.

originally posted by: thinline
a reply to: NavyDoc

It's the same as pedophilia, the church would except the person but not the act.

If you believe sexual orientation is genetic and you are born that way. Then, Homosexuality is not much different petophilia, except the fact more males like their same sex partners on the younger side.

Petophilia? You mean people who love the fact that they look like their pets?

If you meant to say "Homosexuality is not much different pedophilia, except the fact more males like their same sex partners on the younger side."

Then yes, older homosexual people do like their partners to be younger, unlike straight guys that like them old and wrinkly...



I think you're confusing sexuality with other human traits such as vanity, greed, and the ability to accept mortality.

Also homosexuality is nothing like pedophilia. Don't confuse paraphilias with sexuality. Because then we may just as well compare heterosexuality to agalmatophilia or bisexuality to forniphilia. Drawing a random line between two non-related terms; well that's just absurd, isn't it?

originally posted by: thinline
a reply to: NavyDoc

It's the same as pedophilia, the church would except the person but not the act.

If you believe sexual orientation is genetic and you are born that way. Then, Homosexuality is not much different petophilia, except the fact more males like their same sex partners on the younger side.

I am a proud homosexual and petophile. I love my boyfriend and my staffy.

a reply to: soulshn

This is just an attempt to draw attention away from all the child sex abuse allegations regarding that mob that are currently doing the rounds.

a reply to: andy06shake
Or maybe "That Mob" are trying to deflect the attention away from Kincora Boys Home...oh, silly me. Wrong "Mob".

a reply to: andy06shake

The entire vatican could be swallowed up into the earth and all people would remember of it is that it was a place that had incredibly beautiful art, that harboured child-molesting pedophiles.

They're losing their public relations battle in the most grotesque and unnecessary way.

You've got to give it to this pope, though - he's not doing that bad a job. In fact, I'd say he's doing a better job than any of them ever have. Is this one rogue pople enough to save the whole church, though?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Same crap different side of the coin.

a reply to: SomePeople

Like the one foreseen regarding the third secret of Fatima, the one that St Malachy prophesied about? Who knows.

If this Pope really wishes to impress or indeed change our world for the better of all humanity I say open up those Vatican coffers and attempt to do something about world debt.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Same crap different side of the coin.

Yeah but if you read the story it tells how the UK Government knew about the Paedophiles at Kincora and other places but instead of having the Police prosecute they blackmailed the perpetrators into working for/passing information onto MI5 with regards to Loyalist terror groups.
They did the same with a IRA member who was caught on camera molesting a 16 year old girl. He later became their biggest source of information inside the IRA.

Yeah Paedos, Paedos everywhere but it appears the Vatican is the only place spoken about. Well here anyway.

originally posted by: soulshn

In one of the more explosive shakeups in recent history of the Catholic Church, the second-most powerful man in the Vatican has been ousted.

American Cardinal Raymond Burke, a darling of conservative Catholics who is virulently anti-gay, has confirmed to BuzzFeed what rumors from Rome have said for weeks. He will be demoted by Pope Francis from the head of the Roman Catholic Church's version of the Supreme Court to a figurehead role as the Patron of the Knights of Malta...

Breaking: Pope Ousts Top Vatican Judge Known For Incendiary Anti-Gay Comments

Pope Francis continues to impress.

In my opinion the church will have to continue to take more moderate positions if they want to remain relevant to younger generations who are becoming increasingly tolerant.

Cheers!

Yea, you cant have a man like that, that high up, in an organization full of pedophiles. You know, they must stay relevant and all.

originally posted by: SomePeople
a reply to: andy06shake


You've got to give it to this pope, though - he's not doing that bad a job. In fact, I'd say he's doing a better job than any of them ever have. Is this one rogue pople enough to save the whole church, though?

There is nothing rogue about this position.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

I don't know about only the Vatican being called to question regarding claims of child sex abuse considering the amount of celebrities that have also been linked, accused and convicted of simular offences. As to our intelligence agency's involvement and use of coercion, no surprise there it's a standard tactic.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Soloprotocol

I don't know about only the Vatican being called to question regarding claims of child sex abuse considering the amount of celebrities that have also been linked, accused and convicted of simular offences. As to our intelligence agency's involvement and use of coercion, no surprise there it's a standard tactic.

Valid point. To some the entire Catholic Church is evil, but Roman Polanski is a saint. It does boggle the mind indeed.

a reply to: thinline

Wow you are so wrong about homosexuality and pedophilia!

Terminology: Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, the latter individual is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Facts about homosexuality and child molestation