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Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

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posted on Feb, 3 2023 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Here is a laser system that creates a 3D plasma image by using a rapidly pulsed IR laser with a lot of power that creates a freestanding plasma image that can be tuned across a wide part of the EM spectrum.

It only looks funny in the video because the shutter speed is faster than the human eye. It is totally freestanding and requires only normal atmospheric air and the human eye or sensors on a weapon or even making a phantom aircraft as a decoy that would be able to move independently of the projecting aircraft.




Imagine what that would look like, to project any image you want and make it move as you want and be any size.

Here is a like to a forbs article that is a rabbit hole worth looking at or taking the 5 mins to read.


'U.S. NAVY laser creates plasma UFO's'

They talk about the Russians in the 80's using microwaves to create a plasma ball that they thought would be useful to intercept missiles or whatever was in the sky, I imagine.


It also alludes to the recent IR videos of these so-called tic tacs, they were described as a white oblong object that moved like 'a ping pong ball in a cup' as Cmdr. David Fravor said sure sounds a lot like what the NAVY and others are working on and have been for at least from the US's STAR WARS program, the mind boggles at what they could conger these days.

A plasma filament 'phantom' would show up on radar and would be visible as a white, oddly moving object.

But imagine if there is a high def version of this system that could fool someone into believing there is really something in the sky.

A plasma filament image would crackle in the air as it was ionized and if enough power was being pumped would emit microwaves up to X-rays and who knows what effects that would have on people, equipment and possible mind-altering effects from stimulating the frontal lobes via microwaves

the god helmet





Dr. Persinger said he would go to so-called haunted houses and odd geomagnetic areas and record the fields and then replay them so to speak for people in a lab, and they would have odd effects and as he refined his process the effects the so-called god helmet could induce is pretty amazing in a very MK ULTRA kind of way.

Makes you wonder.



posted on Feb, 3 2023 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: SpectorR

Can that laser do the color Blacker than black? NEVER seen a laser do BLACK before. Its not even in the rainbow for lasers.



posted on Feb, 6 2023 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: yuppa




the Astro that came back in the past 2 years was a phony.


You do have a habit of making definitive statements about things that are (likely) unknowable. Maybe you simply know more than most... I dunno.

I understand the hesitancy and problems implied by the quick message from his account, but it could've been from our alleged space traveler who was in a hurry. .. or his imperfectly cooked clone... or an AI "A" construct with a bit of time to kill on Earthly social media, etc.

It would be lovely to have a couple hours to ask him more questions designed to test the likelihood of his story and if legit, then to learn the parameters of this "reality" we find ourselves in... or know it was all a clever falsehood and go back to the futility of general wonder.



posted on Feb, 6 2023 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

No need for apologies. Heck, I take no offense when more personal and immediate slights occur in physical life! If I got rankled by internet arguments or perceived snubs, I'd have been dead decades ago.

As far as the details of the conversations from almost a decade ago (wow, time is superliminally speedy) I forget, too, but being owned by the "govt and co" is increasingly bothersome and obvious.

At some point, the realizations that we are many and they are few ... a few that depend upon some trained killers raised by the many... will dawn upon the oppressed, again, and the oppressors will be savaged, again, despite any godlike technology that was developed (or dug up) by the many, and then appropriated by the thieving, paranoid, murderous few.

Imagine our world if the history, communications and humanity's commonalities weren't suppressed? If there weren't a small cadre of predators manipulating the herd toward strife and ignorance? I think it would have been nice to exist in such a rational, kinder, more interesting world. ..

thus the allure of the breakaways.
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posted on Feb, 6 2023 @ 11:22 AM
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What is the "color" black? Can you show me where true black is in nature, outside some crazy carbon nanotubes or similar?

If they can paint a 3d image in the sky that would APPEAR to have mass only from the artful mastery of plasma manipulation

how does a TV make eve color we can see with only RED, BLUE and GREEN? In fact, our eyes ONLY see red, blue and green.

If you had a super advanced 3D imaging system and a laser projector (or projectors[plural]) you could use the black of the night sky for your black and project your image in 3d space, I bet you it would look pretty convincing.

Also, if you really go down the BT rabbit hole you will know that the Belgian BT even the police saw these craft release a light that looked like a laser but was more solid and could move around erratic that was later retracted like a lightsaber.



Imagine if these craft are a platform to project(in a real war) decoys that fool the eye and radar and not be constrained like a physical object would be to G forces and inertia

Vallee also said during an interview on Bigthink about the Cuban missile crisis, we were going to use a laser system mounted in a sub to project the virgin marry or Jesus to cause a cascade of information flow that would help cover up e invasion of the bay of pigs.

I 110^100 % believe there are BT's out there, but I doubt there are a lot of them, I mean if this story is true how many production facilities could t keep hidden unless off world then you run into a man power and brain power issue.

Where are all these people going to school to do what ever jobs? Who is the janitor in the RK space fleet? Not everyone can be zipping around in these things because if they could why colonize anywhere permanently and why only Olympus?

If they could get to another star system why not seed MANY worlds so all your eggs aren't in one basket, I mean if the RK'ers mess it up the fact that their group stole OUR (humans as a whole) history and made sure nothing was left.

They need what we have, genetic diversity.

That brings up troubling questions about the abduction part of this equation.

Even if someone or their twin agreed to do this, the fact when you can't remember it unless under their control only to forget again would make the idea quite unsavory.

Who is their snatch and grab (kidnap) people to be? I don't see a group of scientists getting their hands dirty.

LOGISTICS is where this story falls apart. You might have a super smart computer, but a human can only absorb so much information effectively over a period of time, and if there is only one of them that mean only one person at a time could be on it or maybe on all its facets people could sit around.

And then that assumes even if this device has the ability to tell us how to create these devices, means we must have the ABILITY to do it.

If I went back to the dark ages and asked them for a very advanced alloy we make today and told them what they needed to do to make it, but that assumes a technological parity between the builders of the AI and US otherwise you would have to get so so many people involved just to decode the instructions it seems silly.

RADAR, radio and a nuclear signal were picked up, but those three things don't mean human could even with instructions build something so advanced.

It becomes a situation that spirals out of control to the point it would involve so many people learning a lifetimes experiences that would require decades and decades to spin up if made public, but even longer under the constraints of real black projects.


There is more to these craft than just the physical craft, but the systems they host.

I KNOW there is something out there that checks all the boxes flying around, that acts and looks like a BT but it doesnt mean that they are some family heirloom from long dead relatives



posted on Feb, 7 2023 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: Baddogma

To answer the question,in this case yes. i cant go into the how.



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 03:49 PM
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Yet again…

Big, black triangle over Salt Lake City a few days ago…

www.ladbible.com...

Again, the breakaway has not been too far it seems.

And now all this spy balloon stuff being shot down it might make sense to float one out of a hangar and have the internet meltdown, this site twice!!



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yeah... maybe... probably. I guess It's nice to think that someone with the tech to liberate the planet hasn't run off... yet.

It's doesn't help one's mental health to be so ignorant and helpless. Even IF we aren't as helpless as we seem to be, being too-smart livestock is a poor position to be in.

I do wonder at what's really going on with our rulers (the evil children playing at adults and their supervising evil entities) ... especially with the latest balloon incursion. The flex of 19th century tech is ... curious?



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Baddogma

War and rumors of war…

I too wonder what is going on. Too many secrets. No over sight. Maybe the Elite have already left and they left behind their flunkys to watch the general population??

But that is assuming the Breakaway, which I still have trouble believing in. Loch Ness? OK. Bigfoot?? Sure, they can tag along! Big, black triangles we operate?? Yep. I seen something that exhibited really cool tech! But I baulk at an entire segment leaving us behind. It is like a limb that you need!

But if management is anything like the public sector then I am pretty confident in denying the Breakaways.

At least that is what I have come to understand about humanity. We may not like the mentally ill but we can still love them as individuals. I am being tested on this stance and I am being better than I was!




posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yeah. Heck, I'm hard pressed to believe in myself, let alone the mundane and weird! But I've come to believe that this life and environs is far, far more than it seems... and that the weirdness and "meta view" is legit... in that we likely go on in some manner ...OR don't; and it's okay either way.

But that still leaves immediate circumstances and the threat of icky discomfort.

One thing that intrigues me is that the overlords spend time and energy to keep us ignorant and seemingly powerless, which means that we aren't... and it's likely beyond the obvious "if we band together we win by force" ideas.

I lean towards the Magical Dorothy Hypothesis - meaning if enough of us think really hard and click our heels together, then we can manifest "home."

It might be tenuous ... but "they" have secret societies and are afraid of something.



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: laserbrain1

Black cats...burned wood....night sky..... obsidian.... thats just a few black colored objects/things. You cannot argue the science of lasers. there are NO BLACK LASERS.

Yes RGB can be manipulated to make the color,but not a LASER with the color itself.
And forgive me for sounding snarky but a rock wont bounce off a hologram. also they will not force clouds out of their way or ir radiate a person with radiation burns near a hologram.

Holograms also cannot be detected by Radar so there goes the theory on that.

Ya mis-understanding the twins as well. The whole point is to NOT Meet each other. The cloned twin is unknown to the earthly one. They are in high orbit hidden from view by some kind of shielding/cloaking.not star trek level crap,think light bending or camera covered skin to make it look like its not there. The Powers that be know it there as well but they are not going to say anything.

Scientist are hidden in abductions by screen memories. Some deep hypnosis abduction victims even seen them as well.

HUmans,(non modified) do have memory limitations. RK's are not normal humans anymore. In effect they are prolly the next step in evolution.

And BT's are GROWN in vats,and then machined into airframes. It makes them almost weightless when under power and their graphene skin is conducting plasma.

Now here is the fun part... the 70/30 rule. WHat part of this is BS,which part is true? I think it is 70 percent true,and 30 percent BS.
And "A" has told people when,where to see these craft as well so he was not known as a liar.



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Baddogma

War and rumors of war…

I too wonder what is going on. Too many secrets. No over sight. Maybe the Elite have already left and they left behind their flunkys to watch the general population??

But that is assuming the Breakaway, which I still have trouble believing in. Loch Ness? OK. Bigfoot?? Sure, they can tag along! Big, black triangles we operate?? Yep. I seen something that exhibited really cool tech! But I baulk at an entire segment leaving us behind. It is like a limb that you need!

But if management is anything like the public sector then I am pretty confident in denying the Breakaways.

At least that is what I have come to understand about humanity. We may not like the mentally ill but we can still love them as individuals. I am being tested on this stance and I am being better than I was!



Think logically on them leaving us behind,removing the feelings. Why bring people along who you have to take care of when you are smarter,faster,and live longer? People who will have alot of trouble adapting to stuff. Sure it sucks not getting chose for the team but i understand why.



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Logically, many- perhaps even most- evil actions make sense.

I'd like to think that love and benevolence supersedes logic in such cases... knowing that reality might have a different take.

But sure, if I were in their shoes- and with clones, I might be- I'd be sore tempted to leave most humans behind to their richly deserved fate.



posted on Feb, 12 2023 @ 10:06 PM
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My problem is not being left behind or not picked. Because it is not about me. But if you ever saw a “handy capable” or homeless person enforcing rules on some other piece of throw away life then you know that individuals have purpose to their existence. And it is very arrogant to discount a life because “it ain’t as good as it should be/yours”.

By that standard most people that I interact with do not measure up. And I have no genocidal leaning on their lives.

So why me? So why have that attitude? Really, as just another feeder, I don’t think that I need money valuating my existence! I say “get rid of middle management”!

I believe that we do this as a species. Or not at all.

But who am I to say??
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posted on Feb, 13 2023 @ 08:44 AM
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there is no color black.

black is the lack of reflected light coming from an object,

the only place in nature true black happens in nature is the singularity of a black hole, even that cool nanotube vantablack stuff is only 99% black.

you could use some animation tricks to make some thing look like the solid side of an aircraft.


i think you might be surprised what state holography is at today.


i don't deny they exist, i just don't think there are a lot of them and i certainly don't think they are coming and going off world as they choose.

We know that these people use altered memories and fake abductions to cover their tracks, why not mess with some ones visual perception and use holograms?

we'll know in a few years how true this astr0 saga is.



posted on Feb, 13 2023 @ 09:15 AM
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smarter,faster,and live longer?

Because it's not by the virtue of your genes, but by circumstances. And if you go so far and achieve that by technology you per definition are no human anymore and would have to prove you're superior first.
And even if that'd turn out to be the case your first act as species would be to wipe out a species that made you possible. I don't know what you strive for but I have different dreams than being apex predator.
A lot of humans prefer harmony. So maybe you suffered from a parasite and are just a phase in it's always progressing stage turning the universe into a vacuum with electricity...

I got maybe a little carried away with that but: if you want to improve the human race it's about respecting human nature and enabling the next generation to build on that.
What would happen in such a tiny community is that they'd eat eachother because of a need to dominate otherwise they wouldn't be in this club that secures its position by arbitrarily declaring others disposable.



posted on Feb, 13 2023 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: laserbrain1
a reply to: yuppa

there is no color black.

black is the lack of reflected light coming from an object,

the only place in nature true black happens in nature is the singularity of a black hole, even that cool nanotube vantablack stuff is only 99% black.

you could use some animation tricks to make some thing look like the solid side of an aircraft.


i think you might be surprised what state holography is at today.


i don't deny they exist, i just don't think there are a lot of them and i certainly don't think they are coming and going off world as they choose.

We know that these people use altered memories and fake abductions to cover their tracks, why not mess with some ones visual perception and use holograms?

we'll know in a few years how true this astr0 saga is.


Holograms dont make a metallic sound when you strike them do they?



posted on Feb, 13 2023 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: yuppa




smarter,faster,and live longer?

Because it's not by the virtue of your genes, but by circumstances. And if you go so far and achieve that by technology you per definition are no human anymore and would have to prove you're superior first.
And even if that'd turn out to be the case your first act as species would be to wipe out a species that made you possible. I don't know what you strive for but I have different dreams than being apex predator.
A lot of humans prefer harmony. So maybe you suffered from a parasite and are just a phase in it's always progressing stage turning the universe into a vacuum with electricity...

I got maybe a little carried away with that but: if you want to improve the human race it's about respecting human nature and enabling the next generation to build on that.
What would happen in such a tiny community is that they'd eat eachother because of a need to dominate otherwise they wouldn't be in this club that secures its position by arbitrarily declaring others disposable.


And there in lies the rub. they arent regular humans anymore. they prolly are different enough to be called a seperate race now and unable to breed with normal humans. They wont wipe us out,because why waste their time when we will do it ourselves.



posted on Feb, 13 2023 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: yuppa

My problem is not being left behind or not picked. Because it is not about me. But if you ever saw a “handy capable” or homeless person enforcing rules on some other piece of throw away life then you know that individuals have purpose to their existence. And it is very arrogant to discount a life because “it ain’t as good as it should be/yours”.

By that standard most people that I interact with do not measure up. And I have no genocidal leaning on their lives.

So why me? So why have that attitude? Really, as just another feeder, I don’t think that I need money valuating my existence! I say “get rid of middle management”!

I believe that we do this as a species. Or not at all.

But who am I to say??


My purpose in life is to live to the best of my ability,and treat everyone as i would treat myself. Regardless of what the RK's decide.



posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 04:22 AM
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True. Sadly that's the one thing we're apparently really collectively striving for.




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