Dan Bursich, Ets and Stargate Secrets

a reply to: OrionsGem

I realised long ago that supposed contactees who ask for donations on their site for whatever reason, that make a show of themselves, that are popular, that write many books, that claim something anyone can imagine, are definitely full of it. Plus when they laugh in their pictures like they have a #ing joker syndrome and as if they mocked anyone that read them, it is a very good sign. You dont need a #ing extensive research to prove such a man wrong, just character analyzing and common sense should suffice.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Lol yes project camelot..... I dont know what the hell these people really want to do but they are definitely con artists. Basically they say things that people will love, as always, why change of recipe when it works so well? They are like a new kind of entertainment for gullible open minded people.

originally posted by: _damon
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Lol yes project camelot..... I dont know what the hell these people really want to do but they are definitely con artists. Basically they say things that people will love, as always, why change of recipe when it works so well? They are like a new kind of entertainment for gullible open minded people.

Thats a very broad claim. So you mean to tell me that every video interview on that site (which number in the dozens if not hundreds) is a con artist and a hoaxer?

Id love to see your top secret info on every one of the PC interviews proving each one is a hoax.
Till then thanks for your input.
Hope to hear from you soon!


OG

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: sheepslayer247

I thank you for and appreciate your opinion. We have different opinions in different "ufo circles" which have themselves differently accepted versions of events.

As far as you becoming upset and stressed out, may I suggest taking a brisk walk or swim? Its a great sunny day today!

OG

I'm not upset or stressed one bit. This is actually quite comedic.

You were presented with evidence, which you asked for, and when it's presented....... you don't even address it.

That shows that you are not looking to find the truth, you simply want to believe. I don't do blind faith in that which can be proven false.

a reply to: OrionsGem

I wish, at some day there will come a person with indisputable evidence that all these ET encounters are BS. How much I would like to see the faces of all those liers, attention seekers, manipulators and money takers. They know their game is over, caught, there are no words in existance which can come to their rescue. End of story...

a reply to: sheepslayer247

You did not present anything LOL Dont sweat it its cool tho, everyone has their opinion.

OG

originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: OrionsGem

I wish, at some day there will come a person with indisputable evidence that all these ET encounters are BS. How much I would like to see the faces of all those liers, attention seekers, manipulators and money takers. They know their game is over, caught, there are no words in existance which can come to their rescue. End of story...

I wish for this as well...its not that I "want to believe" like on the wall poster, I simply want the truth. And if in the future someone comes out with absolute proof that its all BS OR is its ALL TRUE, one way or another we will all be satisfied knowing its the truth, even if it may not be the truth some of us wanted...

until then one can only wish

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem

Did you not see his resume that I posted? That was his resume that he created to find work. It does not mention a PHD degree from NY.

Therefore, his claims to have a PHD from that University is a lie. DB is a liar.

That's not opinion.....it's fact.

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: sheepslayer247

I thank you for and appreciate your opinion. We have different opinions in different "ufo circles" which have themselves differently accepted versions of events.

As far as you becoming upset and stressed out, may I suggest taking a brisk walk or swim? Its a great sunny day today!

OG

It must be fun to close your eyes and ears and only see what you want to.


I guess this is what ATS will get from you in future, when you ask and its supplied you will stick your fingers in your ears?

And then just keep adding claims with nothing supporting like this when the resume was supplied

The government jails and/or bankrupts many scientists and soldiers and other people who work or contract on deep black top secret projects, its the govts way of controlling and silencing those people.

SO your an insider or just another delusional nut making baseless claims?

I take it its the second one because you had to add that to your rebuttal when Burish's resume was supplied and shown to debunk what you are supporting.

Care to give an example of scientist or soldier jailed or made bankrupt that work on deep black projects, care to show explain how that would control or silence person better than killing them and making look like suicide?

a reply to: OrionsGem

Sigh even if just one case they investigated is true, it is the way they do it. Anyone can use factual events for his own benefits... or fake, both work.

And you are a little funny. You expect someone to come and disprove this with top secret infos? Hah i wont explain to you why i find this hilarious.

Im past the provetomeorfvckyou game. I never needed any proof to get the alien reality. Anyone with a shred of objectivity will know. Aliens are common sense to me. The rest is just details. Things are as they are, why doubt them? Why fight over them? Why debate endlessly over them? I dont need to debate alien existence with you just because you are unsure of whats true or not. I made what was needed to reach an acceptable global picture, and it aint pretty, at least from your point of view. Do i have an obligation to prove it to you because you dont like it or because you dont believe? The answer is NO.

a reply to: OrionsGem

Thats a very broad claim. So you mean to tell me that every video interview on that site (which number in the dozens if not hundreds) is a con artist and a hoaxer?

In my opinion and sorry to sound so blunt but damon posted this quoted below which when I read through your threads since you joined is spot on concerning your beliefs in the these subjects you bring up.

They are like a new kind of entertainment for gullible open minded people.

Find a door that opens and closes as if you keep your mind too open something will fall out.

Man I hate that saying, its been used so many times on ATS but I feel as though it fits here in your situation.

But its your mind, believe what you will and open the doors wide open if you please, just a warning as I too believed much of this in the past, you keep the doors that wide open you tend to not fully understand everything that comes in as so much enters when you have doors wide open, you cant see everything coming in, beware what you allow into your head is all I am saying.

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: sheepslayer247

You did not present anything LOL Dont sweat it its cool tho, everyone has their opinion.

OG

You quoted what was presented and now this your argument that nothing was presented?


Why feed you anymore, ATS is about denying Ignorance not feeding and promoting it.

a reply to: sheepslayer247
What you presented was an apparent resume of Dan Burisch, but is there any date for it? He claims he completed a PhD in 1989 - perhaps this resume was written before the PhD was completed.
And you mentioned the name change again, which is evidence of nothing as I posted on the previous page.
People are looking for ways to take this guy down instead of examining his work.
Anyone who thinks the government does 'not' screw with heads and send out disinformants and intentionally discredit information or even 'suicide' some who get too close are naive.
How about discuss his work/claims instead of harping about whether or not he lied about a PhD - it does not matter. No one seems to care that Hoagland lied to get grants and I find Hoagland to be more full of bs than most out there yet he's not shredded.

originally posted by: wishes
a reply to: sheepslayer247
What you presented was an apparent resume of Dan Burisch, but is there any date for it? He claims he completed a PhD in 1989 - perhaps this resume was written before the PhD was completed.
And you mentioned the name change again, which is evidence of nothing as I posted on the previous page.
People are looking for ways to take this guy down instead of examining his work.

Look at the resume. At the bottom it lists a "9mm Duty Weapon Certification, 1990". This was created after he allegedly received his PHD in NY.

As far as the name change, that is suspect to me...except his change to Burish. I believe he simply took his wife's name.

People are looking for ways to take this guy down instead of examining his work.

What work? All he has done is make some silly claims.

ETA: Yes, Hoagland is a liar as well. This thread is not about him, it's about DB.

a reply to: sheepslayer247

This is actually quite comedic.

Because stars aren't enough sometimes?

I'll second that.

Thanks for holding down the fort, sheepslayer247.

originally posted by: wishes
a reply to: sheepslayer247
What you presented was an apparent resume of Dan Burisch, but is there any date for it? He claims he completed a PhD in 1989 - perhaps this resume was written before the PhD was completed.
And you mentioned the name change again, which is evidence of nothing as I posted on the previous page.
People are looking for ways to take this guy down instead of examining his work.
Anyone who thinks the government does 'not' screw with heads and send out disinformants and intentionally discredit information or even 'suicide' some who get too close are naive.
How about discuss his work/claims instead of harping about whether or not he lied about a PhD - it does not matter. No one seems to care that Hoagland lied to get grants and I find Hoagland to be more full of bs than most out there yet he's not shredded.

Ofcourse1 I cant understand how some act like the govt never has disinfo agents, never discredits and ruins peoples careers who spoke up of the truth.

Like i said before no definitive proof has been presented proving it real or fake.

OG

a reply to: sheepslayer247
Out of curiousity, I did try to locate his university he listed on his resume for his doctorate in 1989. I had thought it may have some affiliation with SUNY via online correspondence. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any university by the name given on his resume. I also noted that he actually states on it that his degree was awarded in honor caucas : :  as a token of respect or honor; especially :  in recognition of distinctions or accomplishments not achieved in course

So, it does seem as if he has a past record to embellish.

I guess I will have to agree with you...it is suspicious.

a reply to: OrionsGem

I cant understand how some act like the govt never has disinfo agents, never discredits and ruins peoples careers who spoke up of the truth.

Like whom? Have you an example of a person?

Dan Burisch made a bunch of stuff up, said it was the truth, and then said that the government was ruining him because he told the "truth" that he made up.

It's as circular as your own argument.

a reply to: CynConcepts

I haven't been able to find anything either.

No matter what, he is quite an intelligent guy....just not trustworthy.

originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: Pauligirl
What does it say for Burisch when even the UFO folks don't want him?

Not sure what you mean by this one sentence post? Could you clarify and post something your opinion or thoughts on the story presented instead of choosing to be the spokesperson for all "UFO folks"? (hint: try writing more than a sentence)

I get the strong sense that this guy is sincere when watching his interviews HOWEVER I do also see in the videos that it looks like the govt f'ed his head up, erasing memories perhaps even mind control programming.

At the very least looks like the guy has PTSD side effects and is still suffering from it.

OG

My opinion is that he is someone making up stories, preying on the gullible. I find his stories to be utter hogwash.
Thanks for asking.