Are we done waiting ?

ok so I have to admit a few years back a read a lot and watched a lot of videos kind of new agey stuff.
like spirit science , thrive, a few videos on meditation, I also read books like twin souls, Tibetan book of dead.

Anyway I didn't really buy into it but I was definatly hoping in my own way. Like hoping to hit the lottery but knowing the odds. I guess this is opposite from doom porn.
Maybe I should change the title.

Ok so I know some groups were saying the 12/21/12 was gonna be the shift . Then there was a few dates in July.
I know the doom porn part we are waiting and anyday we are going to FEMA camps . Those dates roll every three months with a new law or any big media like furgeuson story.
But what of our positive people on ATS that believe that good changes are coming? Is there still hope?
Will there ever be a positive change ? Will we ever get out of the grips of the evil/poor management running this world where in 1 country we waste billions of pounds of food and other parts of the world people starve. Where we have people on the street while others live in 42,000 sq ft houses with just them and a dog name fifi.
Please don't get me wrong I have nothing against free market capitalism. You earned it by all means enjoy it.
But we can do better no one should be hungry,cold or homeless ... Not in today's world there is no reason.


Sorry I went off on a tangent ...ok do we have any hope left anydays to keep A wishful thought about.
I'm gonna stay away from religion because even for those that believe some form of masseah is coming back depending on what book you read some grouo we suffer only because they got the wrong bookpeople sometimes good people who just picked the wrong religion if any of that is true. My own beliefs included.

Ok so anyone got anything for me? Possibility of accension , upgraded DNA , just a nicer place for everyone,
Anything will do really .. Please give me a date, time frame and the what and why .

I hope I wasn't to all over the place ..
Look forward to hearing from everyone.

I ordered a pizza, now I'm waiting on the pizza delivery man to get here, seems like its taking them forever. This is the last hour then I will call again and tell them to cancel the pizza, just throw the pizza away in the trash and let the dogs eat it.... So, are we done waiting? .... It's here...

a reply to: navione

Nah, sorry man, got no imminent positives at the moment for you.
Tomorrow ain't lookin' good neither.

My advice when on ATS is to remember that 'a cynic is merely a disappointed idealist' and you can be more forgiving of naysayers and feel slightly more positive about stuff.

But let's face it ........................

Nope all clear of catastrophe, just the SOP incidental death and inhumanity to each other.

I will speak to North Korea.... Set your heart to bless your people and you will ride upon the crest of their praises. You shall rise as a star out of darkness and the rainbow shall enter the soul of the Earth because of thee. Be mighty in humility and wisdom and who shall keep his lips from praising thee ? And whoever would set a hand to thwart thee will bring a curse on their own head. Hear O nations and if she set thee a sign go out to meet her. But let her save face and take not her glory from her.

How about David icke, the guy from thrive, Darryl Aiken, Gregg Darren , that wierd pale guy that did all the interview . I can't remember his name or the name of the group that put out the books or DVD . I would even settle for a date from the plaidiens..lol .

Edit to add David Wilcox as wierd guy and I believe it's enigma production for the DVDs and books about accension.


Also the great Dr Greer ... Anything at all from any of them?

Yes, there are many positive things that have happened during this time, as well as on the horizon. I have also seen a growing current of people actively organizing productive counter-cultures. I think that many are waiting for a productive outlet of their time and energy, rather than a completely broken system.

The system that replaces it will likely either be an outright superior society, or controlled by the same oligarch underpinnings that exist today. What is in place now was destined to fail.

People will tend to fulfill their own prophecies with their actions. When this happens throughout society, it creates the world we know. Every person is important to this, we just need to live up to our innate responsibilities.

The tools to enable a better world will be ready when/if the world is ready.

There are as many good things happening in the world as there are bad, the bad just gets more publicity... grabs more headlines.. sells more papers... they want us thinking it's all doom and gloom, then we all become cynics and adopt a "whats the point" attitude, which then stops us from believing change is possible, let alone actively playing a part in it. Positive is but a state of mind, as is negative and it is negative that they sell to us on a daily basis. Neutrality is the key I find... neutrality is under rated.

My advice, for all it's worth is that the world isn't going to end anytime soon, so don't worry about it, only worry about yourself, your world and a wise man once said "don't rely on anything outside yourself to make yourself happy because it can be taken away from you" and your happiness with it. Another wise man said "surrounding yourself with material things to make you happy is like taping sandwiches all over your body because you are hungry".

The point is happiness comes from within, positivity is an outlook on life not a state of external existence, there will always be good and bad things happening but personally I do believe that things are going to get better in the world soon, because the people are getting tired of the current paradigm and it is when the people get tired of what's being pushed on them that they start to push back....

Wow I thought I had something to talk about that people would have an opinion on. I guess the movement lost it wind since there really hasn't been any positive changes. Not with 12/21/12 not with the indigo kids..

a reply to: navione

Wow I thought I had something to talk about that people would have an opinion on. I guess the movement lost it wind since there really hasn't been any positive changes. Not with 12/21/12 not with the indigo kids..

It's time to give terrestrial ideas another go. Waiting for promises to come true is folly, especially with a track record as prolific as the new age.

a reply to: Aphorism

Agreed. And wonderful words from Serdgiam too! Indeed the only thing I feel like I'm waiting for now, is the right cause to jump into.

I am seeing a great shift in peoples attitudes, navione. At a rally recently I spoke to quite a few people, who all agreed that neither political party could be trusted, and that we need a complete reshaping of government! This is fantastic news! What sparks from this idea may be small and seem insignificant to begin with, but never underestimate people power.

I too was severely disillusioned from being sucked into new age hype. I would sulk and wonder why the "higher hope" still hadn't arrived. But the more I ponder it, the more I feel in my heart that we don't need a higher help. We just need to start taking more responsibility for our own lives, the race, and our beautiful planet. There is still an even better hope, that humanity can "change." That we "choose" to make this world a better place.

I have a friend in the states who told me that more people in rural areas are aiming to be self sufficient. My own friends whom I could rarely talk to about "conspiracies" are starting to question the mainstream media and the rubbish it continues to report while all of these other important things are happening.

Rest assured, more and more information is spreading like wildfire. Sometimes I still get very down and I feel like we are doomed, but then I always, (as if by magic ) come across a beautiful display of humanity that makes me think, NO, we are not doomed. We still have time to make things better. I even feel at times that we are not alone in all of this, that there is something higher than ourselves, urging us to "try." I feel it, right in my bones. XD

Maybe there was some sort of shift in consciousness, who knows. Either way, wouldn't it be marvelous if humanity got them self out of this mess? What strength that would prove we have. The main thing is getting people to realize that the power really is in our hands. If people become more aware of that, nothing will stop us. At this stage encouraging awareness about real issues in those I know is my main priority.

Don't give up hope, we, humanity, need your hope. Every extra little helping hand is precious.

a reply to: MoonMystic

That's beautiful, I agree with you. Everybody is a part of everything and responsible for himself and his surroundings. We are never alone, because one could never make a difference.
Do me a favor and try to have a conversation with yourself, if you notice you develop some ticks that answer you, 1 is yes, twice is no, and three is laughter, you will find yourself as a part of the future of humanity.
Let me know, if you do. (Weed, or meditation helps)

It was said the collective consciousness would upgrade a few years back...
Did this enhancement include HUMAN and Animal life on the planet as well?

If the animal life is being upgraded to suit the adjustments to the new world, then it would make for odd outcomes if humans didn't allow themselves to upgrade as well.

Observing many human activities EA*RTH it DOES appear that the HUMAN consciousness is collectively becoming more AWARE.
Aware of negative social practices and species hold backs. When personally observed it seems to be something is happening from the subjective analysis of 1...

These upgrades may be required every few cycles to insure the many species of a planet can continue to survive/thrive as the planets and STAR systems conditions change, this allows continued growth.

Reminder or something to consider if there is a mass upgrade of the collective of which HUMANS are part of and HUMANS are not allowing the energy to assist.
What happens if the animal life upgrades and HUMANS continue Species self hatred acts upon itself

If receptive to the upgrades it should then initiate more positive living settings globally as many realize consciously "WE" ALL* make up the WHOLE*. This realization then encourages better upkeep of the planet and its inhabitants. Which in turn further projects positive outcomes to be reflected back upon.

To conclude, YES OP 1 thinks that positive changes are possible if not already in progress.
Just some of the main factors of the upgrade associated with the more aware species within the collective (humans) are slowed until the species adjust and matures beyond the many hold back ignorances slowing us down...

NAMASTE
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA*******

originally posted by: navione

Ok so anyone got anything for me? Possibility of accension , upgraded DNA , just a nicer place for everyone,
Anything will do really .. Please give me a date, time frame and the what and why.

Ascension
Upgrades
nicer place
all based on human activities and maturity and compassion for the planets less aware inhabitants dependent on human up keeping or major pollution...

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

animals already know, and knew all along why they live. It is just us humans who have to figure out our purpose.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: MoonMystic

That's beautiful, I agree with you. Everybody is a part of everything and responsible for himself and his surroundings. We are never alone, because one could never make a difference.

Oh no, one person can most certainly make a difference. Never underestimate the individual either. All it can take sometimes is one person to seed an idea. It is true that one person is limited in what they can physically accomplish, but, that does not mean change cannot start with one single idea that inspires many. This is why I say every extra hand is important. You just never know who you may inspire if you choose to set an example.

a reply to: Peeple
Animals may know...
But when the planet changes like it is now with all the pollution in the Air - Sea - Land they are placed in a dangerous position to attempt to survive. Placed in this dangerous position by the main polluters humans requiring them to adjust quickly or die of in mass... And so requiring upgraded.

Humans being a main factor MUST realize other planetary inhabitants depend on humanity being intelligent with technology and waste otherwise humans become responsible for the die offs in mass, and so also requiring upgraded consciously to recognize deeds and actions done affect many outside humanity.

If the species of man cannot accept these responsibilities as TRUTH, the planets many inhabitants can fail if not granted more awareness to say smell/sense dirty water - air - land and know to avoid it in order to thrive /survive. If not made more aware the animal life would remain within these polluted zones over all instead of some of them migrating elsewhere as if more aware of whats going on and so they attempt to avoid which provides them more chance of surviving...

a reply to: MoonMystic

That is just a matter of definition. An idea can exist long after or before the human who put it into words. If I had something meaningful to say and do it, I am unnecessary for the idea to thrive. And if it wasn't me who put it into words and it is part of the bigger plan, it is a logical consequence someone else will say it sooner or later. So the one is entirely dispensable, and in the bigger picture, the only thing that matters. Without cells, no body, without stones, no buildings.

a reply to: navione

I don't believe that something external will come up to save us from ourselves, not something major anyway.
We must do the work by ourselves.
"Be the change you want to see in the world." Ghandi
Every one of us can make a difference in itself; together we can change the world.

a reply to: Peeple

But, I do think you are necessary! Lol.

That is an interesting way of perceiving it. And I agree that many of the one is what drives the whole. But I am not sure I would use the word "dispensable" to encompass the individual. Maybe it is my affection for people, that I feel everyone's unique little contribution to the whole is important. Regardless of whether there is a super-consciousness that gets the job done anyway.

It can go the other way too. Every little thread makes up the tapestry, but if one little thread were to be pulled it could result in part of the whole tapestry being spoiled. If one little cell becomes corrupt it can spread. Sometimes I think in our quest to understand more grandeur things we overlook the potential taking place within the "little" things.

Haha! I just thought of the story The Hobbit. How it was ONE little scale missing from Smaug that resulted in his demise. Whether or not such an outcome would have resulted anyway if it was destined seems beside the point. Which reminds me of a quote from the movie, (and here I reveal my Tolkien fangirl side haha.)

"Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love."

Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. And I am just thinking in little human terms. Still, I hold to my belief. Both the individual and the whole is important and a necessity to each other.