u.s.a and eu framing russia for plane attack over brics bank

ok i can not be the only one here with the opinion that russia is being destabalized over the new banking system brics

brics new banking system

who will loose from this ?? heres a clue big clue here
was the ukraine riots ukraine riots a coup de tat iniated over the brics system

ask yourself who has the most to loose over this new bank and to what lengths they will go???? jp morgan,rothchild etc maybe queen elizabeth ,obama,e.u in fact any of the major players in the world currently using our standard banking system .
so there is plenty who could collaborate to sabotage the threat to the current banking system.
and when i step back and look at this picture i get this feeling that something is not right.
and thats why i believe the plane attack is blatant and russia is being framed .
sorry this is short but im trying to piece this together,but i will leave with you this thought
"do you think they will let us have a bank not in the rothchild and buddies control with out a fight. ???????????????"

originally posted by: stuthealien

"do you think they will let us have a bank not in the rothchild and buddies control with out a fight. ???????????????"

Nope, never.

a reply to: stuthealien

I like your premise.

Just hard to believe that a bank could be born without the hand of the Rothschilds in it.

Then again, Kadaffi's bank was Rothschild free and we saw what happened to him...

Libya all about oil, or central banking?

a reply to: stuthealien

It's nice to see someone connecting the dots. I've been thinking about the Ukraine/Russia situation and I am reminded that we started a war in Iraq over the petrodollar...so I find it not beyond possibility that we may have had a hand in this latest incident.

America is quickly losing it's grip on the world. Other nations no longer fear/respect us and since the USD is worth less than a roll of toilet paper, a new bank or currency to conduct trade was bound to arise.

Russia isn't stupid, wouldn't have they spoken up about that angle by now? Instead of just saying "No, it was Ukraine" Just saying Putin and his crew are actually informed and we just guess. My guess being Putin would be on top of that.

a reply to: stuthealien


Yeah, it looks pretty dirty. The picture painted is of a west desperate to hold on to financial control, to go to desperate measures to block a BRICS bank.

But in these days, its important to question the pictures painted for us as well. They can also be deceptions.

We'll see here. An incredibly immoral, even satanic act was committed in the shooting down of this plane. The question the world is asking at this point is "Who would attempt to advance their geopolitical agenda though a satanic mass human sacrifice?" Putin was smart enough to read the tea leaves, and announce that "no nation should benefit from this act". We'll see if America is that smart too, I believe we will be.

a reply to: stuthealien

Good angle on this.

Tuesday their bank forms. Wednesday sanctions come down. Thursday the plane crashes/shot down/???? Friday Russia blamed despite no investigation yet.

Sure. Could be a TOTAL coincidence. This kind of thing happens every week. Nothing to see here.

a reply to: [post=18178185]stuthealien[/post

Thank's, thought I was the only one thinking along these lines. Prayers to the Innocent Victims of such a 'Could Be', what a so called wonderful world.

If the BRICS bank ever gets anywhere and that is a big if as they have only agreed in principle and none of the goverments have approved it yet and they all are fighting over where it will be. It is no threat to anybody. BRICS spends most of it time fighting with each other making the BRICS bank unlikely to ever become much beyond and idea. And how would framing Russia affect anything? Russias global reputation is already in the toilet so it is not like it can get any worse. And the other BRICS nation could move on without Russia as Russia is the least liked of the group anyway. When you have rebels who have been shooting down planes in an area and another plane is shot down in the same area odds are it was the rebels.

a reply to: MrSpad

I gotta let you know, they HAVE decided: BRICS bank will be in China, with India appointed as the first leader.

That was pretty off topic there. Who is speaking of rebels and the like?

Your premise is the west has nothing to fear from a BRICS Bank because they argue too much??

We argue with our fellow nations all the time. I hardly think that will keep these nations from wanting to rise up and challenge the current institution. Of course they will argue - but if they get it done it will be major.

Also, Russia's reputation in the West and Europe may be ruined but the fact of the matter is other nations simply do not care and are more than happy to work with Russia. Not everyone is buying into this Red Scare crap all over again.

a reply to: stuthealien

Your exactly right in the reasons you list and there are also other reasons;
1 being they want to get hold of the Russian pipeline to Europe so they can screw a commitment from Europe to continue using the American dollar as a reserve currency to stop the trickle away from the US Dollar as reserve currently, turning into a flood and sending the US bankrupt.

2. they want to capture Russia. They have got most of the former soviet union anyway. This will leave China isolated and on its own which they will take down later when they are ready. When they have taken China they will then own the whole world .

a reply to: stuthealien

Immediately what i thought when i heard the news on the radio as well.

• Tuesday: Russia launches new bank
  
• Wednesday: Unilateral sanctions from the US.
  
• Thursday: Russia blamed for downing of MH17.
  

I've never been a big believer in coincidences and the timing is just way too convenient. I am also of the school of thought that we never recovered from the 2008 financial collapse, we just kicked the can down the road a few years with a few trillion made up dollars. History has proven time and time again that with our debt based monetary system the only way to stave off economic collapse is through war, real honest to God war, and it scares the hell out of me.

Perhaps the tides are turning though; last summer i think Obama and the bosses were shocked to find that the public did not have the stomach for another fight despite the war drums being beaten loudly over Syria's supposed chemical weapons attacks. Let's hope we hold true to our new convictions this time around.

Cheers!

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: stuthealien

Libya all about oil, or central banking?

I wouldn't be surprised. We all saw how the "rising" happened in Libya and how doubtfully their leader got executed in the middle of the street. Also we saw the surge in Tunisia and Egypt (let alone Iraq) and the continuous attempt to put Iran down to its knees.

But (I said it before and I'm saying it again) whoever thinks Russia is one of the above, is making a huge mistake. History has shown that the biggest empires, armies and minds have always been defeated when wrongfully confronting Russia. Don't freaking poke the Siberian Bear.

originally posted by: tridentblue
a reply to: MrSpad

I gotta let you know, they HAVE decided: BRICS bank will be in China, with India appointed as the first leader.

This is the concensus from the meeting but, nobodied home government have agreed and India in particular is not happy at all. With that lack of stability in BRICS I would not be suprised if down the road this just ends up being a Chinese bank. And Russia is playing almost no role in the this to begin with nor is it any sory of threat to anyone.

a reply to: MrSpad
why do you ignore the fact the rothchilds and cronies stop any one forming a new banking system ,remember iraq well who gained j.p morgans iraq bank

U.S. Protection of Dollar Dominance

By accepting and encouraging countries to pay for its oil in currencies other than the U.S. dollar, Iran has deliberately taken the same action that, I argue in Making the World Safe for Capitalism, led directly to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. In September 2000, Saddam Hussein announced that Iraq would no longer accept the “currency of its enemy”, the U.S. dollar, and from that time onwards any country that wanted to purchase oil from Iraq would have to do so in euros. I further argue that the motivation for the United States’ invasion of Iraq was to eliminate the threats a post-U.N. sanctions Iraq posed to the key underpinnings of American economic hegemony, and to install a pro-U.S. client state and permanent American military presence in the region. The book examines how a post-U.N. sanctions Iraq either directly threatened the ongoing success of American economic power, or provided enormous opportunities to extend it.

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originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: MrSpad
why do you ignore the fact the rothchilds and cronies stop any one forming a new banking system ,remember iraq well who gained j.p morgans iraq bank

U.S. Protection of Dollar Dominance

By accepting and encouraging countries to pay for its oil in currencies other than the U.S. dollar, Iran has deliberately taken the same action that, I argue in Making the World Safe for Capitalism, led directly to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. In September 2000, Saddam Hussein announced that Iraq would no longer accept the “currency of its enemy”, the U.S. dollar, and from that time onwards any country that wanted to purchase oil from Iraq would have to do so in euros. I further argue that the motivation for the United States’ invasion of Iraq was to eliminate the threats a post-U.N. sanctions Iraq posed to the key underpinnings of American economic hegemony, and to install a pro-U.S. client state and permanent American military presence in the region. The book examines how a post-U.N. sanctions Iraq either directly threatened the ongoing success of American economic power, or provided enormous opportunities to extend it.

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If this was the case why bother talking about it. The evil Rockerfellers obviously have mind control powers to force the poor rebels who in the area who were at the time shooting at what they thought were Ukrainian planes down, to shoot at another plane.

Second, that book is wrong, if the US wanted to make sure that Iraq was stable and be part of its banking system, all they would of said was, we'll drop the sanctions you let the bank in and we'll enjoy the oil proceeds to Saddam, and used his him as a middle man. As oppose to you know blundering into the country. have it catch on fire, and probably be a wasted investment when all is said and done as it breaks apart along with ethnic lines and good portion retains a massive dislike of the West and the US in particular.

Third how exactly does even the stop the Brics from even forming a bank? Its not like the driving force behind it is going to stop if at the worst Russia gets embarrassed and has some Western sanctions slapped against it. Oh no, some Russian general can't go to Disneyland anymore, our international plan to make a bank is ruined forever!

the world doesnt wont the petrol dollar or the imf and anyone who tries to leave is attacked and destabalized .
how is the book wrong saddam was leaving the petrol dollar that is a fact and the point im trying to make.
can you not see how the petrol dollar is wrong and is tied to the imf as well,and to protect the two they will attack ,destabalize,and kill civillians ,,but this time its russia they are going after.

a reply to: stuthealien
Its hard to see something that isn't there.

I just don't see how it's worth it that getting bad relations (giving sanctions and isolating, hurting them economical) would be a good thing, but they do it so when they do it they have other reasons and this could one of the reasons.

Not that long ago you had the Nuclear Security Summit 2014 which is about making the world a safer place, preventing nuclear accidents/dirty bombs but now those leaders think it's good to give sanctions&isolating Russia which has many nukes? ok...