Deceased Lockheed Martin CEO claimed that we are already traveling amongst the stars

a reply to: Zaphod58

Actually amateur RDF isn't all that hard these days, but a bit easier with digital data. MLAT schemes used to track mode-s signal are good to a few miles, but not enough to actually target anything.

MLAT

With voice signals, you need to run crosscorrelation from multiple locations. But if they talk long enough, you can get a vector on the plane by switching antennas with signal diodes.

But knowing the location to a few miles isn't particularly deadly IF the aircraft is notching. Stealth isn't just hardware, but rather a combination of hardware and procedures.

originally posted by: Aquariusdude
a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Yeah read the day after Roswell by Colonel Philip Corso.. Book claims that allot of our current tech was derived from the roswell crash site.Read a bit about the dulce underground base and the supposed aliens that reside there..interesting stuff.

The problem with Corso's book is he was pretty clueless about the technology he was writing about. For instance, the claim is the transistor came from the Roswell, except the first transistors were bipolar, which aren't particularly useful in computers. Then again, you can see the entire development of the transistor (BJT and MOS). There are no missing holes or sudden jumps. In fact, it was a race to see who could patent the BJT first. And regarding integrated circuits, Texas Instruments and Intel fought for years regarding who invented the integrated circuit.

originally posted by: gariac
The problem with Corso's book is he was pretty clueless about the technology he was writing about.

Very true - there were no sudden jumps in technology, just a steady progression over time,as different techniques were developed and improved.

originally posted by: gariac

originally posted by: Aquariusdude

originally posted by: MrJohnSmith
Respectfully, all hokum in my opinion. Fed up with silly stories about advanced technology evolving behind closed doors..Too advanced for the public to know about, blah, blah.. Yet another deathbed / retired employee story, publicised to meet their own agenda, which has nothing to do with top secret info... More likely ego driven.

It just would'nt be possible to keep advanced technology secret, too many people would be working on it, human nature being what it is.

And most importantly of all, I cannot believe America would not be using the alleged technology for global domination, one way or another...

Not that the U.S. of A needs more advanced technology, anyway, their military is adequate enough to dominate world affairs with present technology, as we know.

The Manhattan project was kept secret with thousands working on it...

When the Manhattan project was underway, just who would you contact? Dump your data on wikileaks? Tweet out a secret? It was way easier to keep things secret in the days before the internet. Today, I can watch the contracts on fbo.gov. In the 40s, how did you even know what the government was doing?

Then there were the spies in the Manhattan project:
Klaus Fuchs

Good point. Not to mention that during the Manhattan project, even though you had tens of thousands if not a hundred thousand people working towards something, all but a select few knew what that was. Hell even the ladies watching the gauges in the reactors had no idea what they were watching them for. All they knew is to watch it and make corrections if they got out of range. As gariac pointed out, there wasn't any internet to say anything. But during this time in our history, even the newspaper agencies and broadcasters were given lists of what not to talk about on the air or print. Things like atoms, uranium, etc. And they followed it. All those workers for there for one common goal: They were making something to stop the war and all future wars. At least that's what they were told.

And even with all the tight knit security, of course there were soviet spies.

Not that I have an experience in this area but even with thousands working on a given project , all you have to do is compartmentalize so that each person is only dealing with the area their expertise covers and nothing more - imagine a puzzle with thousands of pieces and you only get one or two. How much of the complete picture could you figure out ?
Include the factor that you are informed if you even try to figure out what pieces connect to yours , you and possibly your entire family will suffer an "accident".

Truth be told, keeping stuff like this a secret would be easy. Even with the occasional leak , you would only see the smallest portion of information in comparison ,and never enough to put together the whole picture. Kind of like what we continuously see on ATS. Small bits with nothing to put them into context. After all if someone came to you with a bolt or some aluminum , could you prove it came from a stealth bomber?

Add in a regular release of disinformation and you could probably keep Christ's second coming a secret....

a reply to: Hellzwulf

The compartmentalization isn't that finely grained. For instance, if you need an altimeter to work at 100kft, you can't spec a bunch of sensors and microprocessors to make one. The systems manufacturer needs to build the box. They may not know what plane will use it, but they know it could reach 100kft.