IRS Has Lost MORE E-mails

a reply to: network dude


Yup, and also, these email servers always have backups every damn day of the year that are kept on tapes in a vault that is far from the datacenter's location.

There is NO WAY any company this big could lose an email, even if deleted.

When they say 'computer crash' , do they talk about the employees computers or the IRS servers?

Did they mention they lost ALL emails or only for a cpl employees? If they lost all, that may be possible if the vault exploded and all their email servers melted 5 minutes before the vault exploded... but losing only a cpl of emails is not possible.

Lies lies lies ...

Peace out

a reply to: ANNED

No need for that, the emails aren't kept on the employees computers, they are kept on servers. My computer could be vaporized at my office and i won't lose ANYTHING, except for my desktop shortcuts and maybe some mp3s ...

Peace out

As an I.T professional, it always makes me laugh when I read things like this.

I work for a reasonably big company (1400 users) and we have many forms of backup for our mail servers etc. So, to say "uhhh it crashed" is such a load of crap. Sure, that might *MAYBE* be true for some companies if a server dies one day and you lose data on the day. But for a government department of that size....please..

I'm just trying to figure out, exactly WHY, Obama is even still in office?! Nixon not only would have finished his term, but probably would have left office with a positive rating, compared to the blatant, arrogant corruption and evil doing in the white house these days.

The IRS doesn't lose anything, especially emails, unless someone told them to. To say that this only affected a certain number of employees over a 21 MONTH period is 100% bullhockey! Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell that these were on a hard drive that crashed.

So, I'm gathering that there's something in those emails that could go straight to the top and Obama's got his Chicago political machine in full swing to ensure he remains squeaky clean.

Every day I hate this man and this administration more and more.

Whats that IRS i havnt paid my taxes, actually i did pay already you must have lost the receipts - go back and have another look.

IRS: "Oh sorry sir we do that a lot, i'll go have another look but yeah we may have just lost it, oh well see you next year, take it easy buddy".


HA! yeah right!

originally posted by: Cruff
As an I.T professional, it always makes me laugh when I read things like this.

I work for a reasonably big company (1400 users) and we have many forms of backup for our mail servers etc. So, to say "uhhh it crashed" is such a load of crap. Sure, that might *MAYBE* be true for some companies if a server dies one day and you lose data on the day. But for a government department of that size....please..

Add to that, the Federal government has records retention laws, so not only do they have the mail server message store, and a backup, they probably also have an in-line message archiver which itself is probably backed up. To get rid of the emails of her and the others involved should be so difficult a task as to be nearly impossible - they'd have to systematically hunt down and delete every email in everyone's desktop who received the emails, delete the backups of those desktops, then remove them from the message store on the mail server(s) for both her her and all the recipients, then erase the backups of the mail server(s), then they'd have to delete the emails from the archiver, and then erase the backups of the archiver.

What's almost frightening is the breathtaking gall it takes to posit such a weak and blatant lie - "The dog ate her emails - prove otherwise."

a reply to: squittles

Yeah there are fines and such for companys not being able to produce emails when required to.

But of course its completely in sequential to 99% of them and their fat wallets anyway.

This is what happens when criminals have taken over the nation. Vote R in this upcoming election. At this point, a vote for D is a Socialist vote for known criminals.

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originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: James1982

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Big woop. Everytime our archive program runs or they upgrade Notes or Exchange, we lose emails. Sometimes people even (gasp) delete them.

You claim politics is all lies, then you defend those lies?

What are you?

Yes, I made that statement. And yes date gets lost. Alllllllllllllllllllll the time. Ask Clinton and Bush-43.

The real question is what in your head makes you believe these two things are mutually exclusive?

*Rolls eyes @ this place anymore.

Now, apparently, "The Dog (also) ate my Hard Drive and servers.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

looked threw the first page only and didn't see this brought up. But email is not sent hard drive to hard drive. Its sent threw a server IE yahoo mail you can log on any where. Even if they use a closed email system the server and the computers who touched the email has a trace of it. This is just a cover that most people was say damn the computer broke.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Wow...they are still trying to go down that path?!?

Someone with an ounce of I.T knowledge needs to step up and ask..."ummm ok, how about giving us all your backup tapes/NAS/storage devices that were backing up data at that time"

The only way any of their statements would be believable is if the damn emails were never sent and were just sitting in a draft folder on the local hard drive. Since we know this isn't the case, how long until someone actually brings that point up???

I've seen more realistic stuff about computers in the movie Jurassic park Lol!

P.S To give an example...

If I really had to, I could get an email from a Banyan (anyone here remember those) server from 1998. It'd be a major pain in the ass but I could do it. So, for them to say that just makes me laugh.