ISIS ISIS ISIS

a reply to: teslarocks

Supposedly they are fighters from Syria. Some of them probably are but I think alot of Iraqi men living in the country joined them once they came rolling through. It's basically like the militia taking the country back.

originally posted by: demus
a reply to: St Udio

of course USA and Saudi Arabia have no connection at all...

Link: online.wsj.com...

Title: Obama to Visit Saudi Arabia in March

Trip Aims to Smooth Relations Amid Tensions Over Iran and Syria



this falling out was March 2014

the long & friendly meeting expected was only 20 minutes & Obama was 'shown the door'

we are no longer more than buddies or allies or trading partners... we are detested adversaries now

especially since the USA has pilfered a lot of tonnes of Saudi Gold
Yeah, these two back stabbings didn't make MSMedia

but I say ISIS is blowback...payback

a reply to: teslarocks

As far as terrorist groups fighting in Syria it was the ISIS and Al Nusra who were constantly in the news. Al Nusra took up allegiance with Al Qaeda and I think ISIS denounced Al Qaeda. Either way, they're terrorist scum who target and kill innocent people. Of course, to them, these innocent people are infidels.

Stupid religion. I'm sure their prophet is so proud that blood is being spewed, heads cut off, and women/children raped in his name. The only God I know who would approve of such things is Satan.

Stupid stupid religion. I hate religion.

a reply to: jimmyx

well if they were peaceful, and did not want to kill each other, they could have refused the funding...but that takes brains, courage, and a little self-interested common sense.

Aren't you lucky to live in a stable democracy because if you didn't you'd understand why people in that situation would take any money offered.

these conflicts ARE ALWAYS the fault of the west (sarcasm)

History shows the west is involved in one way or another more often than not either as an agitator or an armorer .

these people need to friggin' work together peacefully...otherwise, let them kill each other like they have been doing for centuries....

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a reply to: St Udio

this attack on Iraq by Sunni radicals is being directed from Arabia.

I wonder.
I wonder.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I remembered this last nite.

And I have said before that AQ,ISIS, and Hamas, and Hezbollah is Saudis, and Irans, and other OPEC nations version of 'Blackwater'.

To create problems that will fatten their opec bank accounts.

Since the price of oil have been going up massively since the recent Iraq fiasco.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: teslarocks

Stupid stupid religion. I hate religion.

that is one of the goals, mission accomplished.

originally posted by: DelMarvel
There are media reports that they are generating a lot of income from taking over oil wells in eastern Syria.

Who is buying oil from them and how is it getting shipped out of there?

Saudi,Qatar,Kuwait. Oil countries that are Sunni.

a reply to: demus

From terrorist cutting off the heads of infidels to priests molesting children, yes I hate religion. Mission accomplished.

Jesus, Moses, and the rest of the prophet gang are cool in my book, it's the men who claim to represent them I despise and the religion they created.

It was affiliates that did the same thing in Mali, (AQIM) and they are Al Qaeda, same thing happened a big push, although only a tiny army to oppose there and took over much of the country, until the French stepped in.
So it's happening again, and Iran is in the picture, same as they have helped before in 2001 with the US against AQ in Afghanistan.
Question is, is it all bullcrap, like Pope Francis says...well more or less,

Even today around the newspaper stand, people are looking sceptically at the 'Daily Mail' and the pictures, and saying what is going on.... or something similar?
What they are not saying is, Ahh! this just Al Qaeda being Al Qqaeda.

blogs.telegraph.co.uk...

originally posted by: demus

originally posted by: whyamIhere
We are trying to solve 2000+ years of Tribal and Religious differences.

We tried. They don't share the same pride in their Country like some of us.

Their allegiance is to their Religion. Which is even more scary.

It's time to let them work it out. Why should we get blown to bits.

When the locals won't even defend themselves. Eventually, there is going to be a big war.

Until then, let them stay busy fighting each other.

I don't know if you've noticed but "you" have been there for hundreds of years.

guess what? didn't help...

now "you" want to leave?

Yes, let them kill each other.

Our ME policy has been a total failure.

I would suspend all Military aid as well.

They hate us...

Seems there is always some "new" faction or group with a new title coming to the fore every day anymore.

Sure, there is always some big, bad arse faction to wonder about or fear...some new faction being backed by, (fill in name of country of your choice here)...funny how these obscure groups end up with the best of new "toys", weapons and equipment and vehicles and such. I wonder how many times our own country has supplied such factions with what they want/need to only end up having it all lobbed at our own troops in some war somewhere, based on lies.

Why don't all those new factions just call themselves the "hunger games" already as they all seem to have a "hunger" for war and disruption and corruption...greed is the order of the day. Killing of innocents is not a problem for them and indeed, many times it is kids, women, elderly that suffer the most. Yep, they hunger for power and minerals and money and the joy of killing. I wonder what "new" faction will pop up next week, all set with a catchey title and stocked to the teeth with every neat weapon in the book? Stay tuned...we'll see.

a reply to: teslarocks

They All Work for the Obama Administration . Isn't it Obvious by now ?

Sorry if my post appeared off topic. My point was that the name ISIS has already been claimed, she was a major ancient egyptian goddess, whoever is making up the names for these intelligence agency black ops proxy groups probably should do a google search first?

originally posted by: Biigs

Thats who

Actually when i first heard ISIS on the TV show Archer i assumed a made up alphabet agency for TV. Now i find out they exist, but i have no idea if its a super secret spy agency in real life or not.

Right on. Who ever is making up the names for these intelligence agencies' proxy black ops groups isn't being very inventive in my very humble opinion. Whats next, T.H.R.U.S.H.? Or maybe things are getting more transparent to us? I am getting SO sick of this JIVE! How bout you my sisters & brothers? Peace & cooperation, love & compassion....WE ARE ONE!

a reply to: FyreByrd

This evenings Background Briefing has a segment (the segments are 20 minute and in-depth) on the history of the area and it's current ramifications.

Ian McMaster also does a segment on Ukraine on tonights show.

archive.kpfk.org...

a reply to: teslarocks

I too had never heard of ISIS before last week.

What bugs me is the name itself... it doesn't sound very Middle Eastern to me; there isn't enough spit in it, if you know what I mean. It sounds like a very Western name. Is it a translation or an acronym for some longer name?

"Iraq's Sick Idiot Society" maybe?

They are a disgusting group of animals... I watched an hour long video, Salil Salamin 4 on LiveLeak, that someone else had linked in another thread. They basically just murder people at random for the sake of nothing really. At a guess I would say that they brutally murdered about 200 people during the 1 hour video (if you have ever been offended by anything in your life DO NOT WATCH IT).

I guess we'll not hear much about "Taliban" or "Al Qaeda" any more.

They are a fairly new group.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: teslarocks

Its not really an acronym, its in worship of ISIS the Egyptian god that America worships so loyaly. This is nothing more than another American creation like Al-queda and 'Academi' formerly known as ....'Xe' ....formally known as' Blackwater' (Prince tried this crap and got lost...this is what they want however). This is just an Iraqi version of the same...anything to instill terror and to keep the propaganda rolling forward and the media active. This is such crap really. Too bad people everywhere have to die because of an agenda to take over the world by some egomaniacs.

The percentage of misinformation on this subject is alarming.

Just because you hadn't heard of them,doesn't mean they're new or made up. I will let you continue your "research"

Here are some articles worth reading for some basic insight.

www.bbc.co.uk...

The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) is a jihadist group active in Iraq and Syria.

ISIS was formed in April 2013 and grew out of al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). It has since been disavowed by al-Qaeda, but become one of the main jihadist groups fighting government forces in Syria and is making military gains in Iraq.

The final "S" in the acronym ISIS stems from the Arabic word "al-Sham". This can mean the Levant, Syria or even Damascus but in the context of the global jihad it refers to the Levant.

Initially, the group relied on donations from wealthy individuals in Gulf Arab states, particularly Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, who supported its fight against President Bashar al-Assad.

Today, ISIS is said to earn a significant amounts from the oil fields it controls in eastern Syria, reportedly selling some of the supply back to the Syrian government. It is also believed to have been selling looted antiquities from historical sites.

Prof Neumann believes that before the capture of Mosul in June 2014, ISIS had cash and assets worth about $900m (£500m). Afterwards, this rose to around $2bn (£1.18bn).

The group reportedly took hundreds of millions of dollars from Mosul's branch of Iraq's central bank. And its financial windfall looked set to continue if it maintains control of oil fields in northern Iraq.

www.bbc.co.uk...

An impending decision by US President Barack Obama could prove to be a turning point in the way the West approaches the dual conflicts in Iraq and Syria.

As a US Navy aircraft carrier group with dozens of strike aircraft steams northwards up the Gulf and President Obama reviews the military options presented to him by his National Security Council, the US faces a difficult dilemma that could profoundly affect Western nations.

If Washington does not intervene militarily to support the Iraqi government by helping it stem the advance of Isis (the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) - the extreme jihadist group now controlling large parts of Iraq and Syria - the US will be accused by some of "weakness in the face of terrorism", "giving up on the Middle East" and of abandoning an ally in whom it has already invested billions of dollars of taxpayers' money in aid, and where more than 4,000 US servicemen and women have lost their lives.

But if the US does decide to intervene militarily, most likely with air strikes or missile strikes against clearly identified Isis positions, then it will change the whole dynamic of this Middle East conflict.