U.S. to Evacuate Many Staff Members From Baghdad Embassy

originally posted by: beezzer
This administration doesn't have a good track record with embassy staff.

Just sayin'

But but but...our future wanna-be-president said..."what does it matter at this point".

Des

This correlates with the decision to move the Aircraft Carrier George H.W. Bush and two escort ships closer to Iraq.

The ships carry Tomahawk missiles, which could reach Iraq. The Bush is carrying fighter jets that could also easily get to Iraq, where the fast-moving Islamic insurgency is gaining territory.

- Fox
See: Fox News

isis has mrap's now and more than likely advanced weapons because it was just left behind by the police and the u.s.

The Humvees were captured by ISIS on Tuesday after being abandoned by Iraqi soldiers unable to locate the vehicles’ keys, which they claimed the U.S. advisers who alerted them to this feature had never provided. Although ISIS attempted to use the vehicles immediately, they were unable to properly employ them because of the Humvee’s incredibly poor fuel consumption, as well as unsuccessful attempts to obtain spare parts from manufacturer A.M. General in Indiana.



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Haven't read the whole thread yet but looks like the Marines and Army have arrived at the US Embassy in Baghdad and are evacuating people.

Marines and Army Arrived At Embassy

Just found this as well relating to the potential for escalation and further American involvement in Iraq via relocated Aircraft Carrier.

“If you can provide me with the appropriate intelligence we can start doing (air strikes) within 24 hours,” said Lt. Gen. David Deptula, who served as the Air Force’s first deputy chief of staff for intelligence.

- Source: Press TV

originally posted by: nugget1
The cities being taken over in Iraq by ISIS hit the news overnight. It's like nobody saw this coming, so no plans were made as to a course of action, which has me totally baffled.
The NSA knows where J.Q .Public is, who they talk to on the phone, complete internet history, health & bank records, how often they eat- yet they were oblivious to the build-up of these events?

These Islamic groups (especially leadership) have had years of learning how to evade surveillance and "data collection"... They are very good at it.

It may be entirely too late when they realize how good at it they really are. Not only at evading, but at getting intelligence agencies to work for them in some cases. Or even with them. Having them follow decoys, focus attention where they want them to etc...

The next major terrorist attack will be?

a reply to: Swills

I'm assuming you meant this seriously:

Just goes to show ya how these terrorist are winning the mind war in Iraq, aka FEAR. Makes sense since they've been bombing the hell out of Iraq for years now killing thousands upon thousands of people.

Two very quick observations.

One, apparently, America wasn't the brutal terrorist which pro-Islamic individuals claim.

Two, what in the world happened that the US can't strike fear in Iraq thus "winning the mind war in Iraq?" We can't even scare them? Whatever happened to Team America: World Police? Is there anybody left we can scare?

a reply to: Swills


LMAO! Really? HELLO>…………they already won the mind war….they are now winning the REAL war. They are about to completely take over a sovereign country that the most powerful military in the world, with its billion dollar embassy, just left after fighting for and occupying for almost a decade, trying to give the people of Iraq a better future or take their oil or whatever. Bottomline is….this is HUGE! America and the west better start paying attention and Obama better pull his braindead head out of his rear end. Where ARE THE LEADERS??? This is a clash of civilizations!!!!! These terrorists need to be sent a message……..a very strong, violent, message that will send them back to whatever hole in the ground training camp they jumped out of. Seriously, do people even understand how big this is? After Obama's ridiculous release of Taliban commanders for what amounts to a loser deserter to now having to relinquish OUR embassy that we spilled blood to build on Iraqi soil. You can throw whatever politics and reasoning for why we went into Iraq. That's over. Fact is we did. We spilled our blood and our hard earned tax dollars. I don't want to see Iraq succumb to a bunch of ruthless, thug, fanatical jihadi terrorists. And the West shouldn't either!!!!!

Ok…….spineless American government doesn't want to send a message to Boko Haram who kidnapped 200 innocent girls. I get it. But to let Baghdad fall to terrorists? You've got to be fricking kidding me!!!!!!!!!! What the hell has happened to America and our leaders? No guts at all. Obama is a spineless loser in chief. We are looking like a bunch of cowards on the world stage.

To abandon our embassy is pathetic and an act of cowardice on the part of the USA and our leadership. We should send in AC130 gunships and a battalion of Special Ops. If one raghead Muslim haji f#$K steps foot on US embassy soil they are shot dead.

Im embarassed and sad to call myself an American. It means nothing nowadays. We are being overrun in our own country by the third world immigrants including Muslims…..and now they are making us turn tail and run on the international stage as well.. What a joke!

a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

Your government has sold out to the Saudis who sponsor this abomination called ISIS now its gone Frankenstein and they dont know what to do,I agree with you bugger the carrier send in B52's and B2's if we dont wipe this scum off the face of the earth now it is really really going to be the biggest case of blowback in history.

a reply to: nugget1

The cities being taken over in Iraq by ISIS hit the news overnight. It's like nobody saw this coming, so no plans were made as to a course of action, which has me totally baffled.

Lots of people saw this coming.

The ones that make the calls just ignored it.

originally posted by: ausername
If they can somehow capture Americans in Iraq, imagine what they could negotiate for with the Obama administration?

All prisoners at Guantanamo?

The complete unconditional surrender of Iraq to their control and rule, and guarantees that the USA will stay out of the region?

$500 BILLION?

Yeah, without US military on the ground in Iraq in significant numbers, and assets in the region, they would be wise to evacuate every American in Iraq immediatly.

Yeah since we negoitate with terrorists now.

a reply to: tadaman

Well I guess they will put those 36 shiny new F-16's to good use!

benswann.com...

Imagine if these animals managed to figure out how to fly a falcon? 36 F-16's can do a lot of damage in the right/wrong hands. What a friggen mess. It amazes me that elements within the U.S government couldn't see what everyone else with 2 brain cells to rub together could at the time: Invading Iraq in the first place was a bad idea.

You just can't teach these people the value of secular and democratic government. That is why Saddam was a necessary evil. He was a terrible human being, but he was exceptionally fluent in the only language they understand in Iraq: Violence. He was a strongman that kept muslim extremists in check, and now that he is gone the whole country is on the verge of civil war (much like Syria or Libya). Think tanks had predicted such an outcome back in the late 80's and early 90's and it's one of the primary reasons Bush sr. didn't initiate regime change when the U.S curb stomped Saddam during the first gulf war. Yet somewhere along the way a bunch of neocon idiots decided to throw common sense out the window and now you have this mess.

Amazes me that Tony Blair had the gall to suggest he and Dubya aren't responsible and Iraq is better off:



The country actually had a functional infrastructure under Saddam, and while it didn't exactly have a sterling human rights record, can anyone honestly tell me the situation has improved significantly when today, you can be kidnapped and beheaded for being a certain type of muslim in the wrong part of the country?

So the Embassy that cost millions to us the tax payers in this nation is going to be allow to fall in the hands of terrorist, because the weak president in the white house and a Muslim sympathizer feels that is not his fault what other presidents did before him.

You know, when a president is elected he inherit the goods and bad of decades of pass Presidents, that's how it works. The legacy of US invasion of Iraq, a fancy embassy



The US Embassy In Baghdad Cost A Staggering $750 Million [PHOTOS]

Ten years ago this week, Americans woke up to learn that the United States had invaded Iraq.

They had been told it would cost $50 billion and that it would end soon.

Forty-two days later the President declared Mission Accomplished, and that the U.S. would be greeted as liberators.

That all didn't work out as planned.

What did work out was a luxurious compound in the heart of Baghdad on the banks of the Tigris where the thousands of Americans who would remain behind could work, shop, eat, and relax in a palatial, $750 million embassy.

www.businessinsider.com...

Cool!
Drumming up newfound support for the further murder of brown people.
I'll bet the israeli terrorists are happy, as well as the banks who finance the weapons, and the companies who build the weapons.
Iraq war V3.0 ...

originally posted by: ausername
If they can somehow capture Americans in Iraq, imagine what they could negotiate for with the Obama administration?

All prisoners at Guantanamo?

The complete unconditional surrender of Iraq to their control and rule, and guarantees that the USA will stay out of the region?

$500 BILLION?

Yeah, without US military on the ground in Iraq in significant numbers, and assets in the region, they would be wise to evacuate every American in Iraq immediatly.

hell, obama just might give them gitmo!

maybe iran and the kurds can do something about isis.

a reply to: Swills

Not sure what it might mean . . . IF . . . anything serious, or not.

I received an email related to this news topic . . . from a prophetic person who's sometimes quite perceptive.

She said she felt a LOT of . . . concern . . . for the people of the embassy--for their safety. As in a HUGE AMOUNT of concern.

She was calling her email list to prayer for them.

a reply to: marg6043

But the real question is did Obama break 100 on the golf course today? Yes, he is golfing again while Rome burns. Worst excuse for a President in my lifetime. Golfer-in-Chief< br />
This is just flat wrong. People, how did this happen? Obamatrons, rush in to defend your saviour, he needs your help.

a reply to: DeadSeraph

Yeah man, 36 F-16s is a huge problem. Even if they just sell them off. They are now funded for 10-15 years worth of problem making. If they decide to train and use those birds, it could prove to be a game changer to say the least. While old and aging, 36 F-16s can get into just about any airspace on the fly and do one hell of a suicide run. Enough to rock someones world in a heart beat.

I bet they had enough munitions for those aircraft to last for a couple of years...if they sell them....

I agree with your assesment of Iraq. I am no fan of Saddam but he kept radicals out and understood the language his people were able to listen to. Our model of government is barely understood by our own people and is only just barely functioning here and elsewhere. It was guaranteed to fail there.

This is a huge mess. We will never learn the extent of the loss. I imagine that there is an extensive intelligence loss as well.

A whole military base brimming with US gear and tech.....

I dont care what we do afterwards, whether we invade or not, but we need to level that whole base LIKE NOW before too much is taken out of it.

I cant imagine what all those armoured vehicles, assorted aircraft, and stock piles of munitions will translate into in the months to follow.

Things just got a whole level of worse.

Well the Iraqis will sure enjoy what we leave behind I imagine. Using it or destroying it...however it may come if Baghdad falls.

The State Department is planning to spend $115 million to upgrade the the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad only three and a half years after American diplomats moved into the massive $700 million facility, reports Walter Pincus of the Washington Post.

The 104-acre compound — already its biggest and most expensive in the world — currently houses 1,350 U.S. government employees in the heart of Baghdad’s International Zone and will increase its capacity because the U.S. is consolidating overall diplomatic property in Baghdad down by one-third.

Source / 2012