NASA Releases concepts of what it's interstellar ship could look like (AND IT'S AWESOME)

originally posted by: eriktheawful

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

Uhm...."warp drives" do not "defy known physics"

The theory of how they would work is known.

Actually having the technology to build said warp drive on the other hand is a different matter.

If you are talking about warp drive physics by bending space, to the best of my knowledge is flawed, ain't never gonna happen. Space cannot be bent.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Space cannot be bent.

Einstein? Relativity? Gravitational lensing?

Every object with mass bends space around it (or, to be more precise, toward itself).

originally posted by: Nochzwei. Space cannot be bent.

Clearly you have not studied physics.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

As someone who is about to start her 2nd Astrobiology and Exoplanets summer program at NASA Ames I can tell you that you are very, very wrong.


See: NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Program

originally posted by: eriktheawful

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

Uhm...."warp drives" do not "defy known physics"

The theory of how they would work is known.

Actually having the technology to build said warp drive on the other hand is a different matter.

Correct.

This was the state of NASA research into exotic propulsion methods as of 10 years ago:



Greyed out boxes seem to be dead ends.

a reply to: pheonix358

What do you expect in this day in age? It's practically mandatory to get the funding.

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

As someone who is about to start her 2nd Astrobiology and Exoplanets summer program at NASA Ames I can tell you that you are very, very wrong.


See: NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Program

Good luck with your astrobiology.
But I know better.

originally posted by: 1Providence1
a reply to: pheonix358

What do you expect in this day in age? It's practically mandatory to get the funding.

Yes, sad really. Those that should be doing science work seem to spend huge amounts of time and financial resources to get funding. That is what science has become, simply a money crabbing contest. As the funding decreases, and it is, more and more effort is put into funding in an ever present spiral.

Instead of, "What do we do next, what is the next logical step?" we are down to, "What area will get the funding." And they sweep the net wide looking for funding to keep them employed rather than looking at promising science.

So we end up with stuff like this. I ask again, why not just use a pic of NCC 1701 C instead of creating yet another space ship that will never be built.

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originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: Nochzwei. Space cannot be bent.

Clearly you have not studied physics.

No only you have studied physics

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Space cannot be bent.

Einstein? Relativity? Gravitational lensing?

Every object with mass bends space around it (or, to be more precise, toward itself).

Fella, that's what they want you to believe, but its all flawed physics

originally posted by: six67seven
They should quit this instant if they think they're getting anywhere of significance using propulsion and fuel.

Warp drive?!... What a joke!

You clearly did not read how this concept works. It was invented in 1994 and is known as an Alcubierre drive. It doesn't travel the actual distance between two points in space, it warps the space itself to travel over the distorted grid faster than it is physically moving.

You can imagine it this way: A crevice only 3feet wide, but 100feet deep. if you were to lay a grid down the surface of the walls and floor of the ccrevice, it would be 203feet, but you can just jump the 3foot gap easily. An ant would have to walk down 100feet, across 3feet and back up the other 100foot side.

The Alcubierre drive basically distorts the grid of space-time like an accordion in front of itself yet doesn't break any laws of general or special relativity.

originally posted by: Brotherman
NASA cant account for how its maintenance will happen over interstellar journeys hmmm a machine on earth deteriorates rather rapidly on earth over 50 years lol imagine light speed for 50 years much less 50 seconds how do they plan on maintaining that for just one year or one second???? It looks like a lot of wasted tax dollars and 5 minutes of my earth time, eff that CGI UFO

Another one who didn't read the article.

This craft doesn't need 50years in space to get to nearby solar systems. Only 2 weeks to Alpha Centauri.

Eventually there would be service outposts all over the various star systems of course to refuel, service, re-equip, etc And of course mining and production facilities on any habitable planet or moon etc.

Hey, if you are into astro biology, stick to it and don't go around sticking your nose into breakthrough propulsion physics, which clearly, you know nothing about.
a reply to: JadeStar

not if you have a welder that plugs in. not all welders are self powered with a gas engine. how many tigs you see that have oil and filters. way off subject but had to comment on that. that ship is bad ass btw.a reply to: Brotherman

Fella, that's what they want you to believe, but its all flawed physics

it's your flawed thinking

The first prediction put to test was the apparent bending of light as it passes near a massive body. This effect was conclusively observed during the solar eclipse of 1919, when the Sun was silhouetted against the Hyades star cluster, for which the positions were well known.

Sir Arthur Eddington stationed himself on an island off the western coast of Africa and sent another group of British scientists to Brazil. Their measurements of several of the stars in the cluster showed that the light from these stars was indeed bent as it grazed the Sun, by the exact amount of Einstein's predictions. Einstein became a celebrity overnight when the results were announced.

The apparent displacement of light results from the warping of space in the vicinity of the massive object through which light travels. The light never changes course, but merely follows the curvature of space. Astronomers now refer to this displacement o f light as gravitational lensing.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

Too bad you are wrong and Warp Bubbles are theoretical and the problems are being solved as we speak.

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: eriktheawful

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Pretty pictures for sure. But anyone who has dealt with nasa will know that they don't believe in warp drives or anything under the sun that defies the known physics
a reply to: DeadSeraph

Uhm...."warp drives" do not "defy known physics"

The theory of how they would work is known.

Actually having the technology to build said warp drive on the other hand is a different matter.

If you are talking about warp drive physics by bending space, to the best of my knowledge is flawed, ain't never gonna happen. Space cannot be bent.

Time to tell Black Holes they don't exist then ....

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Space cannot be bent.

Einstein? Relativity? Gravitational lensing?

Every object with mass bends space around it (or, to be more precise, toward itself).

Fella, that's what they want you to believe, but its all flawed physics

If it were flawed your GPS (Assuming you've got one of some sort) would not work properly.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Hey, if you are into astro biology, stick to it and don't go around sticking your nose into breakthrough propulsion physics, which clearly, you know nothing about.
a reply to: JadeStar

Says the person who alleges that relativity is flawed and space/time is not bent by mass...

(facepalm)