The law that Obama broke

as far as Contract Law,,
id say he failed to negotiate in good faith,, for his client.
the American People.
maybe he is just a bad negotiator,, get Bill Shatner the next time.

a reply to: beezzer

How do you know those people weren't notified? They may say that they weren't, but this is politics.

You are assuming.

a reply to: beezzer
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Why is obama the main target is my question? If Obama was NOT President then Bush or someone else would be and THE EXACT same thing would be going on. If your intelligent enough to know the government and it's power than you know Obama is just a puppet like any other president so if he is still a issue for you it MUST be based on race and not political corruption!

originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: beezzer

How do you know those people weren't notified? They may say that they weren't, but this is politics.

You are assuming.

I'm "assuming" that if they were notified and didn't say that they were, then the White House is lying, all democrat and republican senators are lying, insiders are lying. . . .

Yeah, I may be "assuming", but I'm pretty darned confident that my "assumption" is pretty spot on.

originally posted by: UniversaLaw
a reply to: beezzer
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Why is obama the main target is my question?

He's the president.

If Obama was NOT President then Bush or someone else would be and THE EXACT same thing would be going on.

Then the name on the thread would be different.

If your intelligent enough to know the government and it's power than you know Obama is just a puppet like any other president so if he is still a issue for you it MUST be based on race and not political corruption!

So if Obama is a puppet, then Bush was a puppet and he wasn't to blame.

Sorry, but I don't buy the "puppet" theory you obviously espouse.

But congrats on being the first to play the race card!

a reply to: UniversaLaw

If your intelligent enough to know the government and it's power than you know Obama is just a puppet like any other president so if he is still a issue for you it MUST be based on race and not political corruption!

Exactly (Kind of)

I don't think Beezer is a racist but I do know that he hates Obama. He hates him so much that he cannot see past the charade and will criticize him any chance he gets. All this Obama hate (I don't particularly like the guy) is kind of unfounded since as you mentioned all presidents are puppets and it saddens me to see so many good-willed people completely blinded by their false allegiences.

Presidents are selected, not elected. And if you are handpicked by those who do the selecting all I can say is enjoy the 4 years (8 if they're lucky).

Former Presidents Warn About the “Invisible Government” Running the United States

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”- George Santayana

Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”

www.wakingtimes.com...

Anyone who believes that Obama, or anyone beneath him in this current administration is making any real decisions has some research to do. The pen that Obama wields is strictly symbolic, the laws are decided before they are even presented. Those who dare speak out against those calling the shots...well we all know what happens to them.

As for the title, if I were an American who cannot see past the charade that we call the American political system, I would have named this thread "The law that Hagel broke" as kruphix previously mentioned.

a reply to: beezzer

Politicians lie, and people die.

Cross party politics is a very, very dirty business.

But what you are saying here is that you don't know if a law was broken or not. You just think it was, although it may not be the case.

Its obvious you hate Obama - and thats your perogative - but your "truth" may not actually be true.

originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: beezzer

How do you know those people weren't notified? They may say that they weren't, but this is politics.

You are assuming.

Because Feinstein says so.

Feinstein says White House didn’t notify Congress on prisoner exchange

Missed the 'assumption' here.

a reply to: beezzer

The NDAA attempts to justify abridging the bill of rights on the theory that rights are suspended in a time of war, and the entire Unites States is a battlefield in the War on Terror. The NDAA negates fundamental American values. The language grants presidents extra-judicial powers, bypassing constitutional checks and balances, in effect declaring Martial Law in the U.S. and its territories. Regardless of whether or not these laws are interpreted as applying to U.S. citizens, by specifically targeting foreign nationals, the NDAA violates the “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees that all people be treated the same under the law.

The original version of the NDAA allowed for the issuance of waivers granting exceptions to mandated military custody of Al Qaeda suspects if the secretary of defense, the attorney general, and the head of national intelligence all agreed. President Obama initially threatened to veto the NDAA, but then indicated he would agree to sign a revised version that allowed the president to issue such waivers on his own and no longer explicitly banned the use of civilian courts in prosecuting Al Qaeda suspects.

Read more at www.snopes.com...

a reply to: neformore

Politicians lie, and people die.

And

Its obvious you hate Obama - and thats your perogative - but your "truth" may not actually be true.

And Obama is a politician.

As someone says politicians LIE.

As now the Taliban 5 are someone else's problem stands to reason people are going to die from that 'exchange'.

originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: beezzer

Politicians lie, and people die.

Cross party politics is a very, very dirty business.

But what you are saying here is that you don't know if a law was broken or not. You just think it was, although it may not be the case.

Its obvious you hate Obama - and thats your perogative - but your "truth" may not actually be true.

I don't know Obama.

And I was unaware that criticism equates to hate.

Thank you for pointing that out.

I just wanted to illustrate the actual law that was broken.

a reply to: beezzer

And I was unaware that criticism equates to hate.

All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.

en.wikiquote.org...

Fits the topic.

As congress was not notified.

To repeat it was in violation of EO 12947, and Omnibus CounterTerrism Act of 1995

Our government that we currently live under is dishonest, is insane, and is intolerable.

a reply to: beezzer

I am going to ask the only relevant question to this thread. So what if he did? No one will do anything about it. It's not a question worth asking. Republicans are just hurting their own image more and more, every single time they criticize this prisoner exchange.

originally posted by: Anonex
a reply to: beezzer

I am going to ask the only relevant question to this thread.

Thank you.

So what if he did?

Really? That's your question? Okay.

No one will do anything about it. It's not a question worth asking. Republicans are just hurting their own image more and more, every single time they criticize this prisoner exchange.

First off, I didn't ask a question. Mine was a statement. "The law that Obama broke". I didn't say, "Did Obama break a law?"
And we have to at least try to force some accountability onto the people we elect to represent us. Many have stated that presidents are nothing but puppets. That we don't actually have a say in the matter.

These are also the same people that will never say, "The Emperor has no clothes".

I'll call it as I see it for as long as I am free to do so.

If Obama was acting as CIC, then no he didn't have to inform Congress of anything. He said he might do as much in signing statements when he signed the 2012 NDAA.

Edit: Sorry that was the 2013 Defense Bill, not the NDAA.

originally posted by: Kali74
If Obama was acting as CIC, then no he didn't have to inform Congress of anything. He said he might do as much in signing statements when he signed the 2012 NDAA.

Edit: Sorry that was the 2013 Defense Bill, not the NDAA.

So it'd be more apt if I said, "The law that Obama ignored"?

a reply to: Anonex

It's not a question worth asking. Republicans are just hurting their own image more and more, every single time they criticize this prisoner exchange.

Republicans are hurting their image ?

HOW ?

Obama and company already have a low opinion of them.

Not like they can get any more 'detestable' for some.

If some people had there way we would have a 1 party 'rule'.

But in 2010 people didn't like that so much so they 'voted' to stop that 'change they can believe in'.

But then again FEINSTEIN isn't a 'Republican'.

originally posted by: Kali74
If Obama was acting as CIC, then no he didn't have to inform Congress of anything. He said he might do as much in signing statements when he signed the 2012 NDAA.

Edit: Sorry that was the 2013 Defense Bill, not the NDAA.

Yeah he does.

Considering how our form of government was set up with the SEPARATION of powers.

Any branch can't do whatever the hell floats their boats.

Specific checks, and balances are in place.

a reply to: neo96

And Obama tried to thwart those checks and balances and become a dictator. He signed the bill into law, if he didn't like the law he shouldn't have signed it, not signed it and then ignored it.

We don't live in a totalitarian society and I'll be damned if I stand by and let this president be a dictator. ENOUGH already, it's time to say NO MORE!

a reply to: beezzer

Pure GOLD:



First he says this.

Then he does THAT.