I remember growing up in 70's as a kid and seeing people walking around wearing 'Ayatollah Assahola' T-shirts.
So from the moment I was born in the United States in the early seventies, I was already being conditioned to view these people as the enemy and the
All throughout my life, especially in the media, I feel there is this constant bombardment of suggestions to prop them up as the enemy - that is, the
darker complexion Arab / Muslim. I am born neither of White European Christian descent nor Arab, Muslim or dark complexioned, so I grew up impartial
to the entire charade. In the news, I never understood all the hoopla about why they were such a threat.
I am not really a 'religious' person in the conventional sense, and I do see a problem with allowing extremist religious views affect law and
government more than *reason*, but that is another topic.
What I wanted to bring attention to in the ATS community is how long the fighting has been going on between these two lineages of people; in
particular - The White Roman Catholic Christian Europeans vs the darker complexioned Muslims.
I was astounded to see how far back the history went, which explains a lot about the emotional tone in these modern times. The history goes back over
a thousand years..
It probably goes back even earlier, but one of the earlier accounts -
Battle of Yarmouk
.. took place in "636, ..along what is today the border between Syria and Jordan, south-east of the Sea of Galilee. The result of the battle was a
complete Muslim victory which ended Byzantine rule in Syria. The Battle of Yarmouk is regarded as one of the most decisive battles in military
history, and it marked the first great wave of Islamic conquests after the death of prophet Muhammad, heralding the rapid advance of Islam into the
then Christian Levant."
Byzantine = eastern half of the Roman Empire (Roman Catholic Christian)
Other notable accounts of conflicts amongst these groups are:
The Crusades -
and the Muslim Conquests -
It was not always the case that the Muslims were in the compromised position they are today but at times had the upper hand -
"..the Muslim conquests.., began with the Islamic prophet Muhammad in the 7th century. He established a new unified polity in the Arabian Peninsula
which under the subsequent Rashidun (The Rightly Guided Caliphs) and Umayyad Caliphates saw a century of rapid expansion of Muslim power.
They grew well beyond the Arabian Peninsula in the form of a Muslim empire with an area of influence that stretched from the borders of China and
India, across Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, Sicily, and the Iberian Peninsula, to the Pyrenees."
From Wikipedia Crusades article - "Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against the expansion of Islam in the near
east; some see them as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe.. The Byzantine Empire was unable to recover territory lost during the
initial Muslim conquests under the expansionist Rashidun and Umayyad caliphs in the Arab–Byzantine Wars and the Byzantine–Seljuq Wars; these
conquests culminated in the loss of fertile farmlands and vast grazing areas of Anatolia in 1071, after a sound victory by the occupying armies of
Seljuk Turks at the Battle of Manzikert. Urban II sought to reunite the Christian church under his leadership by providing Emperor Alexios I with
Several hundred thousand Roman Catholic Christians became Crusaders by taking a public vow and receiving plenary indulgences from the Vatican. The
Crusaders came from various feudal kingdoms of Western Europe.."
This article, though maybe partial, points out a some of the history:
The battle continues..
I hope that human civilization can get past these primitive times and into better days. I hope that we can rise above these tribes of monkeys
Instead of implementing speculative religion, I hope that we can all stand upon reason as our common ground.