Meaning of Rise Like A Phoenix lyrics - Eurovision winner

a reply to: markosity1973

He most likely won because his song gives a big middle finger to Putin.

I'm not into government sponsored and directed hate.
I am usually suspicious of its motives and think there is some other real reason for it.

originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: markosity1973

He most likely won because his song gives a big middle finger to Putin.

I'm not into government sponsored and directed hate.
I am usually suspicious of its motives and think there is some other real reason for it.

It's not really government sponsored. Yes, there is a panel of judges with representatives from every participating country, but everyone gets to ring in and vote too.

Conchita's win is a show of popular opinion by the people of Europe, they are the ones who backed her. She was actually billed as being too divisive to win for obvious reasons. It was a surprise how she came through so strongly that they were able to announce her as the winner before they had finished counting. Her lead was that big. Naturally, support in Russia was low for her.

It just goes how to show when Putin annoys the west, they will overlook prejudice to give him the bird lol.

a reply to: markosity1973

It's not really government sponsored.

I think you are very naive and get sucked into all the hate mongering because it is presented as popular and somehow politically correct.

originally posted by: markosity1973
It's amazing just how just because we have a drag queen singing all these ignorant and plainly ridiculous theories surface. If it had been the Polish team singing the same song,I'm sure none of the straight men would be moaning. Their song was musically awful - an absolute atrocity actually, but they made it all the way to the final based on 'other' talents obviously.

No, I listen to the lyrics of all the songs in languages I understand. I look them up on my phone when one catches my attention. I also look out for Illuminati symbolism. Did anyone catch the pyramid in the French entry? Or the pyramid in the Swedish entry? There was also an all seeing eye in one of them, dont remember now, and dont really care enough to remember. I remember looking up another song and thinking that it could have been a continuation of the message of this song, but dont remember which song now, it was two nights ago and I am tired. I looked up the words to Rambo Amadeus' EuroNeuro song last year(?), it was hilarious and other songs too. So, no, had nothing to do with the bearded lady, but the lyrics. However it was obvious to anyone who is in touch with the agenda of the illuminati that Austria was going to win as soon as it became apparent that the entrant was a cross dresser (who couldn't even be bothered to shave for the occasion), whether the song or the performance was good or not.

The symbolism has been gradually getting more and more common each Eurovision. Not just the eyes and pyramids and # that was in it this year, but did anyone else notice that the Italian entry symbolised Athena and the English one was Isis? There was probably a lot more I missed and there was probably a mystical narrative or mega ritual hidden in the whole thing that I missed, these are just the things I saw.

BTW I hated the Polish entry, what filth! Why did they let that pornographic performance on the stage?

a reply to: Cinrad

. . . a cross dresser (who couldn't even be bothered to shave for the occasion), whether the song or the performance was good or not.

My guess is that his beard grows so fast that he gave up on it.
I did the same thing, because my beard grows incredibly fast, I just us a beard trimmer to keep it short.

. . . the Polish entry, what filth! Why did they let that pornographic performance on the stage?

Decadence is the idea, like pre-Nazi Germany, before hitlerism makes its overt comeback as predicted in the song in question.
The idea is to create a huge backlash, and to really go with it until it is full-on Fascism.
Then it will be time to replay the Battle for Stalingrad that the West is still upset about and wants to set "right".

originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: markosity1973

It's not really government sponsored.

I think you are very naive and get sucked into all the hate mongering because it is presented as popular and somehow politically correct.

This is coming from someone who had never heard of Eurovision until the bearded lady of Austria won?

Hate mongering? I don't hate her or Putin necessarily. I'm from Aussie and watch the spectacle from the sidelines.

If we really want to talk conspiracy, let's discuss how Israel gets to compete when it's generally acknowledged that Europe ends ans Asia begins at the border of Turkey.

a reply to: markosity1973

This is coming from someone who had never heard of Eurovision until the bearded lady of Austria won?

It's a TV show, so let's keep things in perspective here.

Hate mongering? I don't hate her or Putin necessarily. I'm from Aussie and watch the spectacle from the sidelines.

What does "giving the finger to . . ." mean?
Is that a gesture of love and good relations?

If we really want to talk conspiracy, let's discuss how Israel gets to compete when it's generally acknowledged that Europe ends ans Asia begins at the border of Turkey.

A country currently under the premiership of a madman and international criminal who I never see being criticized on TV.
He is going all-out to sabotage the upcoming presidential election and the presidency itself because the likely winner is Reuven Rivlin who supports democracy, which in that country means recognizing Arab citizens as being equal to Jew Israelis.

To be on topic for this thread, I agree that this song on the TV show in question is in fact coming from the mouth of Satan (of course to be understood figuratively).
But then I think the EU is also satanic, and that may be influenced by how I was taught as a child 60 years ago in the church that I belonged to, that Europe being united was a prophetic sign of the end and that only bad things would come of it.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Because despite being born biologically a female, I have always felt I was truly a male and want to reflect that.

Being a trans man and lesbian are two different things...i.e. I still like dudes, but I want to be a dude myself.

originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: SaturnFX

Because despite being born biologically a female, I have always felt I was truly a male and want to reflect that.

Being a trans man and lesbian are two different things...i.e. I still like dudes, but I want to be a dude myself.

I think...
I think you just broke my mind. Does not compute.

But ya know what...I don't have to understand I guess. I only have to respect your life choices, so go forth and be as weird as you want. I wont judge ya if you don't judge me.